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On 3/2/2020 at 12:44 AM, Molon Lave said:

I can only say to everybody that Bernie Sanders is the only legitimate Democratic candidate who can dethrone Donald Trump.

Bernie is nothing more than a populist that utters promises with zero percent chance of fulfilling. Sanders is exactly what Trump is, just on the opposite side. If he ends up winning the nomination for the Democratic party, Republicans will win in a landslide, take back the House and hang on to the Senate. In other words, the USA (and the world) is f**cked for years to come!

But it is possible.

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Super Tuesday was a great day for Biden, he shockingly won in states where Sanders was projected to win (Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Texas). Sanders got a big win in California to stay alive in the Democratic Nomination. 

The delegate count up to date 

Biden - 566 
Sanders - 501 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Molon Lave said:

he shockingly won in states where Sanders was projected to win (Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Texas).

Yes the comeback surge was surprising.  But that also speaks volumes about Sanders' viability and how ordinary people don't think he stands a chance in winning the Presidency. His pitbulls tout otherwise, but that's what pitbulls do. Think SYRIZA and KKE.

Personally, I think Biden stands a better chance against Trump. But I also think that Sanders if going to f**ck things up for the Democrats - just like he did in 2016. His polarized followers will abstain from voting - yet once again - if Sanders is not the party's nominee.

We've seen this show before.

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I think the voting system is rigged. Especially, in Texas. 

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1. The voting system is definitely rigged in Texas. They Republicans (who are in charge in TX) have eliminated hundreds of polling places and didn't hire poll workers in ..certain communities despite population growth and increased voter interest.  I can't guess why.... On super Tuesday some people waited hours to vote--this discourages voting. But, if you say, like some Bernie people, that the Dem party is cheating him, that's false. A party, including its various officers and elected leaders, has a right to express a preference.  If I were them, or even an average Dem voter, I'd say the big prize in the winning the WH and the Senate, and keep the House. ... especially if the alternative is Trump. I might not want to gamble with someone who'd take the party in a more radical/progressive direction if this meant losing the big prize..... even if this were the direction I'd personally prefer.

2. Sanders has not been able to broaden this base in the needed demographics. His "people revolution" hasn't materialized. He wins the people under 30 by huge margins, except these people don't vote. In some states, their turnout was lower this year.

3. Michigan was unexpectedly lost to Trump in 2016. It's now a swing state. The Dem voters will have a say in a few days. Let's see what they think would be the best to put against Trump. "Sleepy Joe" may be keeping Trump awake at night... Even before his latest surge, Biden was beating Trump in Michigan among all voters according to numerous polls.

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You may have missed this in this climate of COVID19, but tonight, March 17th, 2020, Joe Biden effectively became the presumptive Dem nominee after winning in FLA, Ill, and AZ. He's also favored to win in most of the remaining states. Sanders cannot possibly win unless Biden drops dead.

So, Sanders should understand this, sit down with Biden to talk about policies, and withdraw from the race. He can't campaign any more given the situation. The Dem voters have spoken. It'd be best for the party and the voters not to have a prolonged campaign.

I think the general election campaign starts tomorrow.

Be safe and well under the circumstances.

Peace.

PS>normally around here on this St Pat's day the bars would be busting with crowds. They're all closed now!  Same with many retail businesses. This is devastating to anyone connected to retail, and most workers, and retirees everywhere will suffer from this blow to the economy...

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I don't pretend to understand Yankee politics but what happened in the last few weeks ?  Sanders was made out to be a shoo-in and Biden wasn't even on the map.  Now all of a sudden Biden is the man.  What has Biden done to change things up so suddenly ?

And more importantly, are either of them capable of beating Trump ?  Don't call me an idiot.  You guys are the ones that have him as a president. 😁

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First, most of us did not vote this moron in chief. He also lost the popular count by 3 million votes.

Sanders stood out in a field of many because of his core (some say fanatical) support. But, the majority of the Dem voters want someone who is more moderate and, above all, can be a better match against Trump in Nov.  Bernie failed to deliver on his promise to energize the base, especially the younger voters. As more and more candidates dropped out, Biden rose. He got important endorsements, especially in South Carolina--which he won big. 

His numbers against Trump look good now, but most importantly he's winning good demographics, especially in swing states.

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Biden was dead in the water until he won big in South Carolina since he does very well with the black electorate. Then, all of the leading moderates dropped out of the race and threw their support behind him, thereby coalescing the field.

The Dems will win the popular vote (again) but due to our outdated electoral system, he will need to win some key swing states. The big ones to watch out for are Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin. Biden does well with the white working class voters so he has a good chance to take these states.

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God, we miss him! A President that could talk and inspire. A leader!

 

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We'll he'll have to be out a lot more to campaign for Biden than he did in 2016 for HRC.

Even though I'm not saying that Biden has to win by a lot to be legitimate, but it sure would be nice to send off Trump in a landslide. It would also make things easier because otherwise Trump will be contesting this for ever.

 

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