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we are gonna be watching PAOK basketball this year

Bitterly disappointing, yet again. But our mustachioed friend is spot on. What do we have to show for the Savvidis years, apart from more trophies we've ever earned??? Like, folks - it's still August. This same thing happens each time Lucescu leaves. The team needs a fundamental rebuild and we lose our minds at the first sign of trouble. Did their planning happen poorly? Yes. Will they make it right? Hopefully. Am I happy we bought Santamaria and Elustondo? No, not really. But the team clearly is trying to make Lisci comfortable with those moves. It is no different than what we did with Lucescu or any other new coach. At least Lisci seems very willing to start new guys. Also - GOD BLESS PELKAS, WHO APPARENTLY GETS NO DAMN RESPECT FROM OUR FANS.

Gross overreaction by some. Only 2 years ago AEK were eliminated from Europe by Noah, now they're in UCL group stage. Yes the off season was mismanaged but burning the house down solves nothing. Make some good signings, keep moving forward, we can be back there no problem.

Ok ok let’s all settle down a little (not just you this is the sentiment I have seen from many PAOK fans). We haven’t just won “a couple trophies”, it is objectively the most successful period in PAOK history both in league and cup titles… 2 quarter final conference league births and getting out of the Europa league stage a couple times. AND EVERYONE KEEPS HYPING UP THE FACT THAT AEK MADE THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WHEN ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS BEAT ONE SUBPAR TEAM. the only reason they had that opportunity was bcuz of us and Oly getting us coefficient points. They got Sofia when we would get Benfica, Ajax, Besiktas… actual champions league teams. People keep raving about AEK here, on IG, Reddit etc. what did they do? They win the league when us or Oly are in busy or in turmoil… yea they have had a good turn around, but we are acting as if they done anything really of consequence besides win the league. Come on. Bottom line he bought us out of debt and gave our club its greatest periods ever. I AGREE with everyone on here: him and the other higher ups have ran things very poorly the last 3 yrs, but we can not be this quick to forget that Aek would be playing 3 rounds of champions league qualifying against much better teams if not for us.

Change in plans the man is on his way. ΠΑΟΚ: Ταξιδεύει στις Βρυξέλλες ο Κωνσταντέλιας και τίθεται στη διάθεση του Λίσι https://www.sport24.gr/football/paok-taxidevei-stis-vrixelles-o-konstantelias-kai-tithetai-sti-diathesi-tou-lisi/

Shoretire will be our savior

He was never going to stay with us forever. This has been inevitable for a long time. the problem is, after this move goes through, we would have made over 60+ million in transfer revenue in the past 2 years, but can’t shake our “smartest in the room” mentality, thinking we can just look in the bargain bins to find quality players. We never have a plan, nothing is ever calculated. On a side note, I will be in Germany in a couple of days, and will be attending Dortmund vs Bayern Munich. I will definitely be picking up a Konstantelias Dortmund jersey as a souvenir.

Hey, that's GREEK SUPERCUP-WINNING TEAM OFI - put some respect on their name!

Wow, an awful day gets worse. I wonder if him coming was tied to us guaranteeing European football this season? Since that isn't the case he chooses La Liga over the Superleague. I am just speculating but curious.

Looks like only a 2 month absence for Giannoulis. Not bad especially with national break coming up. Only gonna miss 4 games

Diego Costa is expected in Thessaloniki on Saturday. He had to change travel plans (no doubt trying to avoid Ukrainian drones) and is going to Constantinople first before coming to Thessaloniki.

1:2 final score Ali MVP

Nope. Two more subs possible and one moment as Hatzidiakos was subbed at HT.

Taylor subbed off, @PaokCT! Santamaria coming on.

Nothing to see here.

Well at least we made 23 million (or whatever the number is) from selling Delias. Hold on, need to subtract the 15 or so million we lost from not qualifying for Europe. And I guess now less attendance at games, less shirt sales. Now does the sale seem so good and exciting? I think we maybe come out ahead 5 million? Cheap skates. I guess we could've told Dortmund to wait a couple of weeks as we have 2 vitally important games, but that would take balls and wisdom. This is going to be a dull year.

Didn’t think the dream for all 5 Greek teams to make Europe would be ended by us… the money we made off Konstantelias will be offset in part by not making Europe … great. At least everyone else will be focused on Europe. We can sack this manager and win the league. Champions league next year ! Lol

better start watching PAOK basketball this year

Holy s%$#! my boy!!!!

Good move with the young Serbian from Partizan. That's how you utilize some of the money from the Konstantelias sale.

Only because I'm not there to hug him

My boy! My beautiful boy!!!!!

Ali not making the list for this game makes me doubt we'll see him on Thursday. Hopefully I'm wrong there.

Was lucky enough to be at the match. in my opinion he was easily Dortmund’s best player. Dortmund was very poor in the first half, and when Konstantelias came on, he was pulling the strings. First goal was all him, and unlucky not to setup the equaliser, late in the game.

Think he'll learn a lesson? Or nah?

The scenario was written all over it from the start.

Jeremejeff did not care. He already knew he was leaving the team.

Delias wasn't "made" by our academy. You can't make players like that. He's in the mould of Hatzipanayis, Karapialis, those style of players. The things he's done, we may not see again for a long time, if ever. If the kid left of his own accord I'm ok with it, but still sad. If he was pushed out, I don't know what to say. As for our academy, it has only really produced 2 top class players that actually made a difference in the first team, Delias and Koulierakis. All the rest left early and didn't have time to make an impact. If we're happy to be an Ajax (020?) and produce players and then sell them off, so be it, but I'd have liked a few more seasons with them all in the first team. And as for the timing, it's terrible. The club should have a policy of no sales before the qualifying matches of Europe are completed. If we lose to Brann, we're done probably 13-15 million in revenue. That won't make the sale look too good. Why take the risk? Interesting times ahead.

@paokarag4 @Bananas I agree with a lot of what you're saying, particularly that the timing is terrible and that losing Konstantelias creates a massive hole in the team. Where I disagree is the idea that he is “not replaceable” or that his value to PAOK is somehow €50m. Every player is replaceable. The question is how difficult and expensive it is to replace them. Konstantelias is obviously very difficult to replace because he's a top-level Greek attacking player, young, homegrown and already proven at PAOK. But that doesn't mean you can put an arbitrary €50m value on him. Ultimately, the market determines his transfer value. If €30m was genuinely well below his market value, why wasn't there a bigger club willing to pay substantially more? Dortmund obviously see enormous potential in him, but they were the club willing to actually put the money on the table. We can't simultaneously say the market undervalued him and ignore the fact that nobody else offered PAOK €40m, €50m etc. And I don't really buy the “Koudas and Konstantelias, once in 100 years” argument either. That's impossible to know. Koudas is a PAOK legend and his longevity and importance to the club are inomparable at this point - he played ~600 games for PAOK. Whether Konstantelias was to reach Koudas level is impossible to know given he was always going to leave at some point as a youngster in today's football world. He's an exceptionally talented player, but we're projecting what he might become. Where I completely agree is that the timing is awful. If you're going to sell your best player, you need to have a plan for replacing his production before you let him go. Selling him this late, when the squad already has obvious weaknesses and European qualification is hanging in the balance, is the part I have the biggest problem with. That's my issue with the transfer — not that PAOK accepted €30m instead of €50m. My concern is now what PAOK does with the €30m. If we spend properly and strengthen 2-3 positions, then the sale can make sense. If we sell Konstantelias and then replace him with cheaper/lesser players, that's when I'd have a serious problem with the management. And honestly, I'd much rather have PAOK develop another Konstantelias than spend €30-40m trying to find another one.

@paokarag4 I completely agree with you. I think it's crazy the club sold Delias. When you sell a player you should always be thinking how can I replace him and how much will it cost? If it's for say a player like Camara, there are lots of players of this type. You'll find one. But Delias is as you say a once in a generation. You won't find a player like him. And even if by some miracle we do, we probably can't afford him. Further to that, we currently rely on him heavily in attack. I would say almost exclusively. Maybe the manager will change things up to compensate - I don't know. I don't see where our goals are going to come from now. If we had a solid defence and were happy to win a bunch of games 1:0 I wouldn't be that concerned, but we concede goals easily. I can't understand why our American friends are so excited by the sale. 30 million! Not much these days. Olympiacos just sold Tzolakis for 24 million - a good keeper, but very very replaceable. Have a look at Panathinakos in the last few years. They have bought a few players in the 6 to 10 million range and for what? They are still not much improved. I think for now the club has to in addition to finding a number 10, but a midfielder who can solidify the middle and protect the defence. The ease with which we concede goals is the biggest problem. The ball gets into our box with ease. Anderlecht ... a fair result. If we played them again, we'd lose again. Conference League is our level at the moment.

Ehh Lazio's fans are full-on boycotting their team so I think our problems are minor.

Lol This is for the best! You can't operate a club by assuming we can't grow it and therefore shouldn't ever sell a guy when such a (literally?) golden opportunity arises.

Fans are all stupid. You shouldn't endlessly hold on to players just because it gives you the warm and fuzzies. We have a million kids that'll go through the academy. It's incredibly exciting to see who can come through next. Selling players like Konstantelias allows us to both pay for the pipeline, AND opens up a space! Anyway, another rumor for CB now that the Slovenian guy has negged us: https://www.transfermarkt.com/hjalmar-ekdal/profil/spieler/392179

Some rumors of Dortmund offering something in the 25-30mm range for Konstantelias, with his own salary to reach around 3 million/year. It will be really stupid of both us and him to not eventually agree to a transfer (though we should try to push those #s up). The guy who was their "plan A" netted a much larger offer from Dortmund, which was rejected, so clearly there is more room to make more money. And yes I know people think he won't want to leave or whatever. We still should sell him. We could be talking about an amount that will fundamentally reset this team's prospects for years to come, should we spend it wisely. Kamara apparently also rejected an offer from some Saudi team, because he thinks he has a chance at moving to a better league. I think the writing is on the wall with that guy, probably more imminently than Konstantelias. I'd be surprised if he's still with us in September.

He retired in 2023 after playing for some German 7 tier teams or so.

Does no one else feel upset that the refs made so many calls agaisnt us...? We were s%$#!, but i feel like we were robbed as well. 1st game Dissallowed penalty No penalty on delias Foauls 80/20 to them 2nd game It was not offside Fouls 80/20 They should of gotten a red card for studs tackle on us in the 70th-80th Why red on zivkovic but no red on the player who pushed him? Wtf was that red om jeremeff? Should of been 10 mins extra time not 6. When you add up all these strategic plays against us, it like they were pushed to progress....

22 caps already and no topic. This has to change. Went from PAOK to VfL Wolfsburg in the summer of 2024 for € 12.8 M. And he was transferred after the relegation of his club to 2. Bundesliga to AS Roma for € 16.5 M.

Definitely the case. Brann won’t be easy. If we end up losing the tie, would he rather play Barcelona or Kavala in the league?

Kristall Ingason sounds like Sverir's hot sister's name

I love that this is your take. Why do more teams in world football choose to park the bus and defend? Because it is easier than trying to build up and create with the ball at your feet. Don't get me wrong it takes discipline and focus to stick to it for 90 minutes and not make any mistakes. But Anderlecht did make mistakes, they conceded 2 penalties and we created more than enough to score at least once, if not twice. We weren't perfect and made our own mistakes, that is football. More goals are scored by one team making an error than by the others brilliance. I fundamentally disagree with the implication that it is harder to sit back for "89 minutes" than it is to try and break down a low block. You could set out any team to sit deep and defend, there isn't much to it tactically. The far more challenging part is being on the other side and being able to open up said defence, not become frustrated and create.

Anderlecht is an ok team. They got lucky with that early goal and then played the entire game to keep the 1:0 lead. We on the other hand had the possession the entire game but only managed to get 2 shots on target. We just could not create any scoring chances.

Tore his left ACL🥺

Konstantelias did not travel due to a personal issue??