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Of course we’ll take the results. None of us were expecting this, so let us enjoy it Re Gamoto lol.. More importantly, it gives confidence to a young team. Of course the performances still need improvement, and yes, we didn’t face Germany of old and the Netherlands absolute best. But not long ago we were losing to Scotland and struggling to beat teams like Georgia. In my opinion, this is a massive step forward for the national team. Sure, we’re still thin and we don’t have five quality options at every position, but we have a bunch of young, creative players. If the coach plays the right system and selects the right players, they’ve shown they can become a dangerous team. Nobody is saying we’re suddenly one of the best teams in Europe. We just want to get back to tournaments, compete, and show we can hold our own against good teams. These results showed we’re moving in that direction. I didn’t want this coach back either, but since they started with him in the nations league, you can’t possibly get rid of him after these results at the moment.

Torosidis red card (no this isn’t a message from 2010)

Congratz to the PAOKtzides from Oz for slaughtering the galopoula! What a nice way to wake up (game ended about 8 AM here and I will watch the highlights rightaway).

Greetings from Maui, Hawaii. Happy New Year to all the forum members and all the PAOK fans. Also Happy 100th Birthday to PAOK in 2026.

Just for perspective: The German national football team is worth approximately €1.31 billion, the Netherlands national team is valued at €805 million, and the Greece national team stands at €323.60 million according to Transfermarkt market valuations Keeping the germans off the scorecard 2 games in a row show a huge accomplishment and a vast improvement in defensive play likely due to the younger players maturing and the contribution of the older players. Personally I think a lot of this is also due to the impact Jovanovic has had on the players, nobody wants to come off, they have each others back and everyone wants to contribute....fantastic team mentality which we haven't seen in the last 12 years. Let him continue until he screws up and then they can fire him....but until that happens let him work. For Greece to succeed they have to do so as a team and not as a group of individual talents (regardless of how impressive we may think they are).

Why does your font look like you're yelling

Yeah, I don't like that we're now qualifying wins over freaking Germany! Fine, they're in a down cycle for them, sometimes that's what it takes. Greek people just don't like to be happy.

If you told me we would be 1-3 and alone in 3rd only ahead of Serbia i would have taken it..🤣

First tie breaker is head to head points scored against each other. That’s means if we win this game we are on to the next round!

Made the mistake of listening to that Hellas Footy podcast and had to turn it off when they decided collectively that we had to play like cowards (and the spastic-chipmunk-sounding-guy trash talking Thessaloniki didn't help, but I guess you can't expect miracles when a bunch of fans of Athens teams get together). Anyway. Bitterly disappointing here. We can hold our own against any f***ing team, which the first 60 or so minutes showed us today. When we revert to scared tactics, we get our assholes torn open. Big frigging shock.

The full 3 points was almost too good to be true. Slightly disappointing of course but we are sitting in a great position by not losing to them. For me this is about securing Pot 1 and raising rank.

GROUP A2 STANDINGS Greece-6 Netherlands-4 Germany-1 Serbia-0

Really? Up until Feburary, we were absolutely playing the best and most attractive football in the league. Then injuries took hold and we have fallen apart since. Strongly disagree with that point as I do with saying the league was "down" in 2024. Olympiacos won a European title that season. We only just pipped AEK to win the title. Saying it was down is simply untrue and inidcates you either drink too much (likely) or are just desperate to justify your point (less likely but still plausible.) Not wanting Lucescu is fair enough, it is okay to not like him for whatever reason, but claiming we played ugly football all season is not true. We were lauded across the league for playing attractive football, we scored brilliant goals, were top of the table and were drawing comparisons to the great team of the 70's. Let me finish by saying, I don't think Lucescu should be guaranteed to coach next season. There clearly needs to be a review and assessment conducted. The jungle drums are rumbling and pressure mounting more than ever from fans and media alike. There comes a point when it is better to just shake hands and move on.

Bakasetas is hanging around for another qualifying campaign, you better believe that. He wasn't initially called up for these games but called up as a replacement once Konstantelias was injured, that doesn't scream to me well planned out goodbye testimonial. I maintain Bakasetas has a role to play(off the bench), and to a lesser extent Kourbelis and even lesser extent Masouras. The team's defensive issues can't possibly be laid to blame at Bakasetas' feet. We created a bucket load of chances, as you mention in an attacking sense we have really turned the corner. Defensively we have massive issues. Individual errors which need to be rectified by the players themselves but also our structure and system doesn't seem to provide adequate protection. Jovanovic needs to sort it out and ASAP. You can't be going 3-0 up with 30 minutes to play and the match turns into a rodeo. We must get better at seeing out matches and playing out time to get the result. Otherwise no matter how beautiful we play or how many goals we score, qualifying for a major tournament will remain a pipe dream.

Timing matters mate. Arguably on paper, yes some of these transfers appear to be solid. A lot were brought in after we were knocked out of Europe and the team was already in a spiral. Lisci has been pushing sh!t uphill since he arrived. Appointed one day before pre-season, has his best player sold in the middle of European qualifying and then has a bunch of transfers arrive in September (way too late.) I say this as someone who wasn't a fan of his appointment, I thought he was too inexpereinced and was taking over a big club with expectations to win. Something he hadn't had before in his career. That was a byproduct of the club's awful organisation. Another loss against Iraklis and and it may very well become untenable. Regardless he was never really given a shot to succeed by the club and their extremely poor preparation and organisation. BTW Elustundo has been a disaster.

The best thing is we’re guaranteed pot 1 for the Euro qualifiers. We must qualify automatically finishing 1st in qualifying

What can I say? It’s in our blood😂😂

Yeah, this Germany is much, much weaker than back in the day. It'll take time for them to gel, too. This game showed us just how little depth we have on the wings. Gagatsis needs to go on a complete charm offensive to get Konstantelias back once he's healthy. But even with him, we'd be without competition (or backup) for Karetsas on the right. You all better be hoping your club teams can make their youth take that next leap (I'm looking at you, Chatsidis).

If you told us before the international break that we would be 2-0-2, with Tzolis hurt, we would have taken it.

GROUP A2 STANDINGS Greece-7 Netherlands-5 Germany-4 Serbia-0

Also previewing the Netherlands match

Might speak more to the caliber of the German team. We should not get ahead of ourselves. Our defense and midfield need a lot of work. However, taking advantage of their weakness in order to guarantee we stay in the better "league" (and lock down a pot 1 spot for Euro 2028 qualifiers) will let us build on this by continuing to play against better competition and then having an 'easier' run at qualification. Steel sharpens steel or whatever.

With this, we have also now beaten every active European country at least once!

Historic Greece win in Germany. Bravo paidia!! Kourbelis goal! Androutsos solid performance.Tzolikis great saves. Karetsas what incredible skill!!

If and big if. We can shock everyone and squeak out a win, our Serbian brothers tie the Dutch… we can realistically be in a position to not just secure top 3 in the group, but maybe even compete in this Nations League tournament! Yea yea all we did was beat Serbia but in the last 15 yrs that game would have ended in a tie or loss for us 99% of the time. I am choosing to be hopeful again. The Dutch and the Germans are both not at their best. Klopp will need some time to get his culture into the program. Who’s to say we can’t finish second in this group and leap frog one of them? PAME

We deserved to win that game. What a high going into Germany now! We got our three points, so there’s no pressure. We still need to clean up our defence as we were lucky not to concede a second.

HELLAS WIN! Great comeback! We have so many attacking options its ridiculous.. Teteh and Douvikas came in and were incredible. Tzimikas what a cross on the goal. Tzolis an incredible footballer what a match! Greece need to work on the defensive side of the ball hard to believe that is our main issue after all these years of solid defending.

Germany away up next, easy 3 points! 😬

we are gonna be watching PAOK basketball this year

Bitterly disappointing, yet again. But our mustachioed friend is spot on. What do we have to show for the Savvidis years, apart from more trophies we've ever earned??? Like, folks - it's still August. This same thing happens each time Lucescu leaves. The team needs a fundamental rebuild and we lose our minds at the first sign of trouble. Did their planning happen poorly? Yes. Will they make it right? Hopefully. Am I happy we bought Santamaria and Elustondo? No, not really. But the team clearly is trying to make Lisci comfortable with those moves. It is no different than what we did with Lucescu or any other new coach. At least Lisci seems very willing to start new guys. Also - GOD BLESS PELKAS, WHO APPARENTLY GETS NO DAMN RESPECT FROM OUR FANS.

Gross overreaction by some. Only 2 years ago AEK were eliminated from Europe by Noah, now they're in UCL group stage. Yes the off season was mismanaged but burning the house down solves nothing. Make some good signings, keep moving forward, we can be back there no problem.

Ok ok let’s all settle down a little (not just you this is the sentiment I have seen from many PAOK fans). We haven’t just won “a couple trophies”, it is objectively the most successful period in PAOK history both in league and cup titles… 2 quarter final conference league births and getting out of the Europa league stage a couple times. AND EVERYONE KEEPS HYPING UP THE FACT THAT AEK MADE THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WHEN ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS BEAT ONE SUBPAR TEAM. the only reason they had that opportunity was bcuz of us and Oly getting us coefficient points. They got Sofia when we would get Benfica, Ajax, Besiktas… actual champions league teams. People keep raving about AEK here, on IG, Reddit etc. what did they do? They win the league when us or Oly are in busy or in turmoil… yea they have had a good turn around, but we are acting as if they done anything really of consequence besides win the league. Come on. Bottom line he bought us out of debt and gave our club its greatest periods ever. I AGREE with everyone on here: him and the other higher ups have ran things very poorly the last 3 yrs, but we can not be this quick to forget that Aek would be playing 3 rounds of champions league qualifying against much better teams if not for us.

Change in plans the man is on his way. ΠΑΟΚ: Ταξιδεύει στις Βρυξέλλες ο Κωνσταντέλιας και τίθεται στη διάθεση του Λίσι https://www.sport24.gr/football/paok-taxidevei-stis-vrixelles-o-konstantelias-kai-tithetai-sti-diathesi-tou-lisi/

Gomez has impressed me so far in the two games he played. He really stepped up his game. The loan last season did him some good.

Another Greek Wonderkid gets a move to a big 5 league, Karetsas is off to Dortmund!

Razvan would consider him too young though.

Just around the corner is our next opportunity to make a major tournament. There is no ifs or buts. We NEED to qualify. Due to our participation in Nations League A we will have an extremely high possibility of qualifying. If we finish top 3 in our group for nations league we will automatically be in pot 1 for the qualifying for the Euros. https://x.com/fmeetsdata/status/2075908457471906165?s=46&t=ASqPGJRrtcVRyVr8hMrtIg

Looks like Lucescu's time with us is coming to an end, has been mooted for almost a month now. I think the writing has been on the wall for awhile. The Cup final loss was hard to stomach and the implosion against Panathinaikos which cost us place in Champions League qualifying no doubt sealed his fate. Although it's ending, he still leaves as PAOK's most successful coach ever and no doubt our most decorated. I have little doubt that he will return one day down the road, to steady the ship! Thanks for everything Razvan, you made us champions and returned us to the summit of Greek football! https://www.sport24.gr/football/paok-xekatharizei-oristika-to-thema-loutseskou-ola-deixnoun-diazigio-me-ton-roumano-texniko/

There is a diabolical scenario, where we win the title if PAOK, AEK and Olympiakos are tied on points at the end of the playoffs as we beat both in tie breakers. Current standings: AEK 67 PAOK 61 Olympiakos 61 R4: Olympiakos - PAOK tie AEK - Panathinaikos tie AEK 68 PAOK 62 Olympiakos 62 R5: PAOK - AEK (PAOK win) Panathinaikos - Olympiakos (Olympiakos win) AEK 68 PAOK 65 Olympiakos 65 R6: Panathinaikos - PAOK (PAOK win) AEK - Olympiakos (Olympiakos win) Final standings: PAOK 68 Olympiakos 68 AEK 68 I know it's almost impossible to happen, but I can dream.

The result was good in Hungary considering the lineup and missing our top players. Greece three matches now without a goal that is concerning.. Jovanovich needs to start our young promising players we cant keep stating this enough. Kourbelis should not be on this team PERIOD! Bakesetas cant be starting!!

After that Denmark loss, he hasn't coached the same. He pulled the kids early and turned to a few veterans that have no place on the team. He led a solid Nations League tourney and s%$#! the bed in qualifiers. There was no reason not to qualify. I think many of us would agree that our best line up was the one against Scotland in the Nations League, and we haven't seen it since. Tetteh/Pavlidis Tzolis Delias Karetsas Mouzakitis Zafeiris Giannoulis Mavropanos Koulierakis Vagiannidis Tzolakis/Vlacho/Mandas (pick one)

At least Mandalos retired and he won't play again for the NT. Time for Bakasetas and Kourbelis to be dropped from the team as well.

KALO PARADEISO STA ADERFIA MAS

Again I 100% agree with you, I’m just worried that in typical Greek fashion EPO will reward him with a longer contract and then we waste this generation. I’m still celebrating and reloading the group table everyday just to see us in the top 2 lol. Of course just qualifying for a major tournament would be a huge change of pace but I think we are capable of so much more. It has been a huge improvement but I just don’t want us to sell ourselves short.

Love it!!

Germany 0-1 Greece FT First ever win against Germany!

nikh prokrish me thn 2h 11ada

The relegation playout started with half the points (rounded up) of the regular season. I took 100% of the regular. My bad. Correct table: 5 PΑΟΚ Β 15 6 Kavala 12 7 Nestos 10 8 Kampaniakos 8 9 PAS 8 10 Makedonikos 3

Another goal for Shoretire. PEC Zwolle leading away against FC Twente and 17 (+?) minutes still to go.

U19 Greek Cup quarterfinal: PAOK - Olympiakos: 3-1