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Disband Gate 4. Every one of those people who were arrested should be banned for life.

"Organised" fans are living in another decade. They have too much power and they think they are more important than they are. As for the on-field, our form has been patchy all season nowhere near enough consistency to compete for the title. The only way this season is salvaged IMO is by getting out of the group in the Conference League and hopefully progressing beyond the round of 32.

I say: accept this punishment and hush. Then start demolishing gate 4 like Barça kicked out "Boixos Nois" and make us a club to visit with the entire family that buy tickets instead of those "dsabatzides" that try to enter the stadium together with you. And put some 7 ft monsters at the gates to check flares and other stuff.

I really liked JVS as a human. He seems like a good guy and he always said it as it is. A straight-shooter. He's right what he says about EPO. We all know its corrupt as F***. Canadians/Dutch don't put up with this kind of thing. Its not in their DNA. Truth is, however, he didn't get the team into Euro 2020 or WC 2022. There were some bad losses and ties to countries we should have beaten with our eyes closed. I have no clue why Greece has always stunk against minnows but is always respectful, if not great, against the giants. People mention the good times of Otto and Santos but forget how many times we had to eek out a win against the Lichenstein's of the world in extra time. The problem is in the mentality of the players. You have to approach every game as a must win situation and take no team for granted. Corruption has to be abolished. How do small countries like Croatia, Serbia, Belgium, Portugal, etc., do it? They have smaller and/or equal populations to Greece but they are ages ahead of us... I hope the new generation in Greece which seems to be less corrupt and much more innovative moves in and clears the scum out of EPO so some respectability can be put into place. I'm gutted by the current state of affairs. I never in my life thought I would see the day where I would watch Canada's national team play and think, "holy crap! this team would smoke Greece if they played today".

Bravo Olympiakos big win! Beating the Turks again! Still a chance at top spot in the group..

Absolutely. Don't bother fighting it. Who cares. The team will probably play better.

Was just being funny mate but yes every country has a golden era at some stage. I remember the US were unlucky to lose to Belgium in the knock outs back in 2014. I'm sure Canada's time is coming.

Well yes I live here. I will root for Greece and Canada any time. Just like the Australians on this board will root for Australia. No harm in that. So are we on or what

They would destroy Georgia Kosovo Moldova and Slovenia also. I will say that with confidence. In fact, why don’t we make a little wager. No money. Just a friendly banter wager. I’ll bet you Canada gets to the knockout phases in the World Cup. If I win, you leave this board for a year. If I lose, I’ll leave this board for a year. Great friendly little wager.

Thyra 4 needs to be closed permanently. Buncha trash out there and I’m talking the people in the stands

The battle for #15 hasn’t be as great as now. It is very tight between #15 and #20: 15 Greece 5.100 5.100 4.900 5.100 5.750 25.950 2/ 4 16 Turkey 6.800 5.500 5.000 3.100 5.500 25.900 3/ 5 17 Cyprus 7.000 6.125 5.125 4.000 3.625 25.875 2/ 4 18 Denmark 5.250 4.875 5.125 4.125 6.400 25.775 4/ 5 19 Croatia 5.125 5.750 4.375 5.900 4.500 25.650 1/ 4 20 Czech Republic 5.500 6.500 2.500 6.600 4.500 25.600 3/ 5 #15 gets Q2 CL for the runner up in the League and Q3 for the cupwinner!

0:0 tie Let's hope Copenhagen does not play their 'B' team against Slovan

koproskila

Makes sense since today's EPO is controlled by Melissanidis and AEK. Worst possible selection in my opinion. Can't decide if it would he would be worse than Gatuzzo.

True we don’t get enough attempts on target. With JVS the “total football”coach or so we thought we were getting especially early on we only managed as many shots on target as Andorra during qualifying. Add to that the silly goals we conceded in qualifying with JVS, we never saw Greece give up those goals with Santos. If Greece were up vs the minnows or Croatia & Russia’s of the world we put the matches away. One thing we know is if EPO give him the job he will run the Ethniki his way.

That's what concerns me. With Portugal he had some great attackers and played more defensive but a team like Portugal who can capitalize on a few chance's can make them successful but with Greece our shots on target to goal ratio is very bad so playing defensive and only creating a couple chances a game will make it difficult for us. Obviously results are the most important thing at the end of the day but i don't want to go back to watching Greece line up heavy in the back and just protect the net until they get one or two chances a game to counter. Santos style was successful with the players he had for us at that time but i cant see that style being successful with this generation of players.

Dude am i missing something he didn't say anything that was racist at all. That's a pretty big accusation.

I'm torn on this one, I was a big fan of Santos when he was with the NT but we all know he will implement a less attacking and more sit back and try to counter system. I think Greece need to find a couch that still preaches attacking football. With the young guys like Douvikas, Tzolis, Masouras and when healthy Fortounis back those guys are not meant to sit back i still think we need a couch with a good attacking mindset.

Lmao. They actually won a gold cup in 99. Beating USA Mexico and Colombia. And like I said you’re talking 2004. That was almost 20 years ago. Of course they would’ve got mauled. I’m talking today. No one talks about Australia beating Vanuatu Maldives and Fiji to get to the World Cup before. But hey whatever fits your racist narrative as always. You’re the same racist prick through the internet. But like I said not your fault. It’s the idiot moderators who let you spew racist s%$#!.

LOL...Lets see Canada play a top European nation like Greece did when they beat world cup and Euro title holder France, Czech Republic, Spain and Portugal 2x in there own country. They would get mauled from start to finish. Last year they needed to up their ranking to try and go directly into the "hex" so they played a friendly vs Iceland's almost C team and of course they lost. They cant compete with the the big boys of world football like Greece can and has done. So many decades in CONCACAF with nothing to show, just pitiful. Anyways on to the Ethniki..

Have you actually seen their forward line lately and watched them play? I’m not saying they are better than Greece. But their top 2 players David and Davies are better than anyone on both teams.

It's like my team in the AFL, Carlton. We sacked the last decent coach we had and since then we've been through five of them with no success. Sixth time lucky?

Dude I’m 49 years old. I don’t have time or energy to make fake accounts. I have this one and that’s it.

Get to the Wcup 1st I will bet $. U will just go to one of your alias names should you lose that bet.

They lost 5-0 to PAS at home last week but they nevertheless seem to be unbeatable the past few years when we play them. Whether that is to do with our complex, them getting a bonus for taking points from us or a mixture of both - we are embarrassing right now. Both as a team and as a fan base. Though I should say that the fans embarrassing us are the minority.

They’re finishing the game off now

They better stayed away all season. Trash is the correct way to call them. They are a disgrace for my and our beloved club.

As for JVS good riddance! Hopefully we can secure a decent coach to build this youngish side.

I respectfully diagree with this part. We used to spank the minnows under Otto and Santos, I remember Gekas alone would score two or three. I can remember a few last gasp wins against Kazhakstan and Malta but other than that we've usually accounted for these sides quite easily.

Alexandros Kiziridis scored both goals of Zlate Moravce against Pohronie (Kokovas plays there but was not in the squad today) in the highest Slovakian tier.

Was talking to one of my Portuguese friends about Santos. They like him but they think he plays too defensive. In the game against Serbia, they scored the first goal and then stopped trying to score. They just sat back absorbing pressure for the majority of the game. They didn't start attacking again until the last few minutes. May have won them the Euro but with the team they have, they should have qualified for the WC as the first place team.

Big win! Hoping for first place in group and hopefully better seeding.

I wish they would bring in a big name experienced coach but like u said that most likely wont happen. I have a lot of respect for Santos and what he did for the Ethniki. He was with in penalties off taking Greece to the quarter finals of the wcup! He had a great record and the defensive pieces to play his style of football. I have a feeling they will go with a Donis or Dellas but I am seeing on some sites that EPO want a foreigner. Anyways JVS started brightly but his questionable player selections & tactics screwed us. 6pts dropped in games we were leading in the 2nd half to Kosovo & Georgia (who are an up and coming side)would have taken us over Sweden. Just pisses me off seeing Sweden in the playoff draw today and they avoided Italy and Portugal.

It’s a tough call right now, I’m worried they will go after a low budget coach. I started thinking maybe a Greek coach that has a better understanding of Greek football Like Donis but it also worries me that a Greek coach will be completely controlled by the EPO. We know for certain we are not going to hire a big name coach number one we don’t have the budget and number two I don’t think a big name would come here. Santos is an interesting name to bring back but as I mentioned before I don’t think he has the players that can make him and his style successful. Especially since Santos will for certain play a less attacking and a more defensive style. Valverde might be okay but there’s no one I’m jumping out of my chair for right now.

Their own coefficient is probably more important. They are now at #42. A win brings them in the top 40 teams. Might bring them a pot higher at draws (only in CL or EL).

Good, EPO took along time they should have let him go right after the Kosovo disaster.

Looks like he’s heading to Man Utd. I new he was good. Very intelligent coach. https://www.sport24.gr/football/mantsester-gioynaitent-symfonise-me-rangknik-gia-na-analavei-ypiresiakos.9438338.html

Olympiakos 1-0 Fenerbahce FT

SOARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The goal difference right now is one goal in favor of Slovan, so if they win in Copenhagen by one goal we will need to win at least by 3 goals. Not sure we have the offense to do that.

Qarabag 2-2 Omonoia FT Not bad

2021 - 2022 Season: Round 4 (24.11.2021, 15:00 EET - Makedonikos Stadium, Efkarpia) PAOK Thessaloniki 'B' - Veroia NFC TV: ERT3 (Greece), ERT3 web stream (worldwide)

If those are the options, keep JVS.

With the run England is making this year PAOK wil be overtaken tomorrow by every single English club in the coëfficiënt ranking. We have 20.000 and the small English sides now have the country coëfficiënt of 19.970. A win for either Arsenal or United is enough.