thrylos Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just thought I would share an outsiders point of view on the Greek National Soccer Team. I friend of mine who played professionally in Sweden and on the Iranian National Soccer Team watches a lot of Greek football (due to his friends being Greek) and know more about Greek teams than many Greeks do, told me today some of his thoughts on Greek football. Here is a quick summary as a mini dissertation is not needed. *The corruption at the top is too strong. *Coaches are getting fired for not playing players that the owners want to play. *Not promoting within. Trying to get a quick fix from different nations. Which lead to his comment on the National Team. He saw the game and he cannot believe that a good coach like OTO is making these moves. To have Basinas, Karagounis and Katsouranis on the field at the same time is suicide. Keep on of those guys and promote a couple of young guys. He uses Beckham as an example. Beckham is still a way better player than any of those 3 mentioned, yet he plays less on the national team than those 3 Greeks. He said Basinas and Karagounis are 35 minute players at the National level. He also said the the Greeks play scared. Only after the get scored on and fall behind in the game do they try to play offensive soccer. When they play offensive soccer they look good in his opinion. Just some of the thoughts a 44 year old ex-national Iranian player has on Greek football and the National team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenon Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 exactly right always appear to be on the back foot instead of going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 not sure i understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxiotis7 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ya, your friend is right about somethings for sure. Its a shame that out siders have these kinds of views agasnt us. But I still think Karagounis should be playing 90 minutes. He is the only player on the ethniki who can create anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover22 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Wooopee we got some Iranian guys opinion on the NT which is no more significant than Kermit the Frogs. Karagounis can play a full '90; give me a break. Beckham better than Basinas? Are you kidding? Why because he appears in ads? Because he lives in Hollywood? Because he's married to a self absorbed stick figure w/ plastic tits? Basinas at his best is much better than over hyped Beckham. And I don't think he's a "way better" player than Kats or Kara for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangas21 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 now.................................T H A T S.................................entertainment !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Wooopee we got some Iranian guys opinion on the NT which is no more significant than Kermit the Frogs. Karagounis can play a full '90; give me a break. Beckham better than Basinas? Are you kidding? Why because he appears in ads? Because he lives in Hollywood? Because he's married to a self absorbed stick figure w/ plastic tits? Basinas at his best is much better than over hyped Beckham. And I don't think he's a "way better" player than Kats or Kara for that matter. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: that is funny. basinas better than beckham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genome Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 He also said the the Greeks play scared. Only after the get scored on and fall behind in the game do they try to play offensive soccer. When they play offensive soccer they look good in his opinion. I don't know about Karagounis being only a 35 minute player. Basinas might be true though.Katsouranis should definitely play imho. But I agree 100% with the quote above from your friend. Perfect example: our game vs. Spain at Euro 2008. The only game we looked good in because we knew it was all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Just thought I would share an outsiders point of view on the Greek National Soccer Team. I friend of mine who played professionally in Sweden and on the Iranian National Soccer Team watches a lot of Greek football (due to his friends being Greek) and know more about Greek teams than many Greeks do, told me today some of his thoughts on Greek football. Here is a quick summary as a mini dissertation is not needed. *The corruption at the top is too strong. I dont really understand.......what would an Iranian Swede know of corruption in Greece exactly???? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphi Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 You can easely say that a player who was a regular both at Manchester United and Real Madrid and who is going to play for Milan AC is much better than a random Greek player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 I dont really understand.......what would an Iranian Swede know of corruption in Greece exactly???? :blink: He flirted with AEK before he tore his knee up. He is a huge AEK supporter and watches Greek League soccer with my father every weekend via satellite. He hears the game in Greek and fully understands everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 ok......that still says really nothing. Being trialed or courted by AEK doesnt give you inside knowledge of corruption at the top..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 ok......that still says really nothing. Being trialed or courted by AEK doesnt give you inside knowledge of corruption at the top..... This is getting a bit off topic, but unless you hear it first hand you cannot comment. I understand that.I personally know two players that were involved with the top teams in Greece (AEK and OSFP) Ballas that played for Olympiakos and my friend have both informed me of the way things go down. I'm not here to try and pursuade you as I don't have that much time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genome Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 This is getting a bit off topic, but unless you hear it first hand you cannot comment. I understand that. I personally know two players that were involved with the top teams in Greece (AEK and OSFP) Ballas that played for Olympiakos and my friend have both informed me of the way things go down. I'm not here to try and pursuade you as I don't have that much time. That's very interesting.But how do things go down? Because I really want to know! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStriker Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Basinas at his best is much better than over hyped Beckham. I take it you were being sarcastic, right? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_horse Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 This is Greece's current roster G 1 Kostas Chalkias G 12 Alexandros Tzorvas D 5 Traianos Dellas D 16 Sotirios Kyrgiakos D 13 Evangelos Moras D 18 Avraam Papadopoulos D 11 Socratis Papaststhopoulos D 3 Christos Patsatzoglou D 2 Giourkas Seitaridis D 4 Nikos Spyropoulos D 15 Vassilis Torosidis D Loukas Vyntra M 6 Angelos Basinas M 10 Giorgos Karagounis M 8 Kostas Katsouranis M Vassilis Koutsianikoulis M Grigoris Makos M Alexis Tziolis ST 9 Angelos Charisteas ST Yiannis Amanatidis ST 17 Theofanis Gekas ST 14 Dimitrios Salpigidis ST 7 Georgios Samaras ST Evangelis Mantzios The ones I highlighted in bold are players who we're on the EURO 2004 winning squad. Greece did indeed got a bit younger, it's only a matter of when will Otto call up for more youth or to play them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAO_OR_DEATH Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) You can easely say that a player who was a regular both at Manchester United and Real Madrid and who is going to play for Milan AC is much better than a random Greek player. yet that player has NO euro or WC medal !!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahhaa england will NEVER win again hahahahahahaha BASINAS ETHNIC HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, BEAUTIFUL CROSS TO CHARASTEA TO WIN IT I MIGHT ADD I love how everyone one hates greek football after we won the euro in 04 Edited April 8, 2009 by PAO_OR_DEATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) Only updated till the Iceland-game in March 2016 but nevertheless a nice reference book for appearances and topscorers of the NT: http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/grk-recintlp.html Edited June 29, 2016 by Dutch Eagle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikod Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Wow looking at that list it's amazing how many caps players like vyntra, tziolis, spyropoulos and venetidis have acquired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Pope Francis blesses the Greek National Team! https://youtu.be/XHFzDFzzNJg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockafeller Skank Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 ^That probably was what went missing. Now we can all sleep tight coz with god's will we re gonna qualify for Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Mitroglou entered the top ten off alltime topscorers for the Ethniki after his goal against Belgium: 1. Ν. Αναστόπουλος 29 2. Αγγ. Χαριστέας 25 3. Φ. Γκέκας 24 4. Δ. Σαραβάκος 22 5. Μ. Παπαϊωάννου 20 6. Ν. Μαχλάς 18 7. Ντ. Νικολαϊδης 17 8. Π. Τσαλουχίδης 16 9. Γ. Σιδέρης 14 10. Κ. Μήτρογλου 13 11. Δ. Σαλπιγγίδης 13 12. Ν. Λυμπερόπουλος 13 13. Θ. Μαύρος 12 14. Β. Τσιάρτας 12 15. Στ. Γιαννακόπουλος 12 16. Γ.Χ. Γεωργιάδης 11 17. Κ. Κατσουράνης 10 18. Αλ. Αλεξανδρής 10 19. Β. Τοροσίδης 9 20. Γ. Σαμαράς 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaeus7 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) Mitroglou is capable of reaching 20 goals or better in less than 2 years. Edited March 26, 2017 by Molon Lave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 The Greek Legends of 04, beat Portugal 04 2-1 in Athens Katsouranis & Charisteas the scorers ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 https://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/shades-of-2004-as-greece-conquer-portugal-again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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