PAOKSYD Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 The last 5-6 years have seen PAOK go from 30th in Europe to 80th. When Savvidis came he promised us Ronaldinhio & winning the Champions League, yes we all laughed but he set the bar high..... The way he ran the club over the last few years has been amatauer. So many scandals, so many bad moves, coaches leaving on the eve of the season, not handling things correctly. Lets all agree on one thing, before PAOK no one knew Savvidis.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyPAOK Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Agree but let's not forget that scandals have always existed at PAOK before Savvidis, so have bad moves, poor handling of football matters, revolving door of coaches etc. Pre Savvidis, PAOK had won 6 trophies in 86 years. Under Savvidis we have won 5 trophies in 9 years Pre Savvidis, PAOK was in debt. Under Savvidis we are financially sound Let's all agree that PAOK has been better off ever since Savvidis came. Could things be run better? no doubt 100%. Has PAOK fallen off since becoming champions? no doubt 100% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nea Bafra Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, SydneyPAOK said: Agree but let's not forget that scandals have always existed at PAOK before Savvidis, so have bad moves, poor handling of football matters, revolving door of coaches etc. Pre Savvidis, PAOK had won 6 trophies in 86 years. Under Savvidis we have won 5 trophies in 9 years Pre Savvidis, PAOK was in debt. Under Savvidis we are financially sound Let's all agree that PAOK has been better off ever since Savvidis came. Could things be run better? no doubt 100%. Has PAOK fallen off since becoming champions? no doubt 100% Listen, don't come in here with your logic and reason. There's no room for that in here. If you continue with that you might be seen as antiPAOK like me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, PaokCT said: I would never understand this concept. Cool so if we don’t make Europe we don’t wanna get better… wtf is that? Not saying that’s your thinking. Listen, I genuinely feel that if we run out the team we have right now for the duration of the league, we don’t finish higher than 4th. We'll finish second not because we are "second best" but because the other teams in the league are so terrible. Every other team other than Olympiacos has gone backwards or at best sideways with the exception of Aris who to their credit have become quite a competitive team in the last couple of seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, SydneyPAOK said: Agree but let's not forget that scandals have always existed at PAOK before Savvidis, so have bad moves, poor handling of football matters, revolving door of coaches etc. Pre Savvidis, PAOK had won 6 trophies in 86 years. Under Savvidis we have won 5 trophies in 9 years Pre Savvidis, PAOK was in debt. Under Savvidis we are financially sound Let's all agree that PAOK has been better off ever since Savvidis came. Could things be run better? no doubt 100%. Has PAOK fallen off since becoming champions? no doubt 100% I would add pre Savvidis we promised players low wages and still didn't pay them. With Savvidis they actually get paid. Our biggest problem is the poor state of Greek football. If Savvidis was at PAOK 20 years ago I'm sure he would have attracted better footballers. Still he has made mistakes and I'm not going to bother getting into them as what's done is done. What is sure is if for whatever reason he left the club we would regress MASSIVELY. The simple fact is he puts more money in than the club can generate on its own. The club is unfortunately not self sufficient and if he left our budget would be probably 1/3 of what it is today. In layman's terms, we'd be F***ed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Nea Bafra said: Listen, don't come in here with your logic and reason. There's no room for that in here. If you continue with that you might be seen as antiPAOK like me. Good to see you have moved on and aren't holding onto any grudges 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nea Bafra Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, paokarag4 said: Good to see you have moved on and aren't holding onto any grudges 😜 to be honest, I can't even remember which one called me anti PAOK for questioning 'some' of Garcia's decisions. I wish they'd get avatars to tell the 2 sydneysiders apart. Surely whilst experiencing their first true lockdown they have some spare time. I don't hold grudges, I just can't resist being a smart arse [it's a character flaw] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, PaokCT said: Listen, I genuinely feel that if we run out the team we have right now for the duration of the league, we don’t finish higher than 4th. Zero chance of that. You way overestimate the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 It was me! Your anit-garcia comments were fuelled by the athenian media. Real paoktzides would never of posted the stuff you said. If we cop a hidding tomorrow from Rijeka all hell will break lose in Thessa.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nea Bafra Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) - Edited August 19, 2021 by Nea Bafra not worth it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 It is not your place to question if someone is a real fan. Like, ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Claesson is no issue anymore Kagawa still linked at MLS Jan Boril of Slavia Prague is in scope as a deal/lone with Baba Rahman continues with the speed of a snail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Dutch Eagle said: Claesson is no issue anymore Don't think it ever was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Bringing players like ninua, murg, esiti, branjovic, taylor, perriera, kagawa is a complete an utter joke. Now with 10 days to in yet another disaster transfer period we have the worst squad since Donis was our coach.... We have big problems and the fact most of you are sleeping and cannot see it, doesnt mean we will win games this year. Well finish 4th at this rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilaul Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) Wait we are not getting Messi this year or Cristiano Ronaldo? WTF is this crap? Not even trying to bring Rolandinho back from retirement? Edited August 21, 2021 by Nilaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Another season 20 points behind the gayros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Levadiakos announced the signing of Georgios Vrakas. Nothing mentioned about a fee. Site of PAOK hasn't mentioned anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Saw some random fan page on Instagram also claiming that Tsiggaras was on Atromitos' list. Say it ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaokCT Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I wasn’t a fan of Tsiggaras, at least initially and how Garcia threw him in European comp… but I really hope we don’t get rid of him, we wouldn’t have any backup CM’s. I mean we just have Esiti and he’s more of a DM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Atromitos wants him on loan and made a request to PAOK. If we can get rid of Esiti before August 31st than Tsiggaras will probably stay. Otherwise he might be loaned. Also Tsiggaras is refusing so far to sign a contract extension. He did the same thing last season before he agreed to 1 year extension. Would be a shame if he left the team in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 How can Aris make signings of Iturbe, Camara and we cannot sign a left back all summer long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 17 hours ago, Dutch Eagle said: Levadiakos announced the signing of Georgios Vrakas. Nothing mentioned about a fee. Site of PAOK hasn't mentioned anything at all. Its a loan move... I dont get it though, I thought PAOK B was created to stop moves like this one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Looks like Chuba is coming back. I am content with this move. His speed is desperately needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilaul Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, PAOKSYD said: Looks like Chuba is coming back. I am content with this move. His speed is desperately needed. We need more players under the age of 30 generally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Seems we are going the loan route for these final few transfers, Akpom seems to be a lock and apparently Sidcley a left-back from Dynamo Kiev (who Lucescu's father is the coach of) is the favourtie atm to come in. We have been linked with about 3-4 different left-backs of the summer so take it with a grain of salt. The final piece of the puzzle looks like its going to be Aexandru Mitrita, a Romanian winger who currently plays for New York City in the MLS. Far from the sexiest names but at this point anything is better than nothing, we need to cover these holes and in time we'll get to see the quality of the players. We still await to see if Giovinco reemerges as a possibility for the no.10 position, or if another player surfaces as a possibility. Whatever happens, it seems it's going to be a busy few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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