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@paokarag4 @Bananas I agree with a lot of what you're saying, particularly that the timing is terrible and that losing Konstantelias creates a massive hole in the team. Where I disagree is the idea that he is “not replaceable” or that his value to PAOK is somehow €50m. Every player is replaceable. The question is how difficult and expensive it is to replace them. Konstantelias is obviously very difficult to replace because he's a top-level Greek attacking player, young, homegrown and already proven at PAOK. But that doesn't mean you can put an arbitrary €50m value on him. Ultimately, the market determines his transfer value. If €30m was genuinely well below his market value, why wasn't there a bigger club willing to pay substantially more? Dortmund obviously see enormous potential in him, but they were the club willing to actually put the money on the table. We can't simultaneously say the market undervalued him and ignore the fact that nobody else offered PAOK €40m, €50m etc. And I don't really buy the “Koudas and Konstantelias, once in 100 years” argument either. That's impossible to know. Koudas is a PAOK legend and his longevity and importance to the club are inomparable at this point - he played ~600 games for PAOK. Whether Konstantelias was to reach Koudas level is impossible to know given he was always going to leave at some point as a youngster in today's football world. He's an exceptionally talented player, but we're projecting what he might become. Where I completely agree is that the timing is awful. If you're going to sell your best player, you need to have a plan for replacing his production before you let him go. Selling him this late, when the squad already has obvious weaknesses and European qualification is hanging in the balance, is the part I have the biggest problem with. That's my issue with the transfer — not that PAOK accepted €30m instead of €50m. My concern is now what PAOK does with the €30m. If we spend properly and strengthen 2-3 positions, then the sale can make sense. If we sell Konstantelias and then replace him with cheaper/lesser players, that's when I'd have a serious problem with the management. And honestly, I'd much rather have PAOK develop another Konstantelias than spend €30-40m trying to find another one.

Chuba Akpom is currently the leading goal scorer in the Championship with 28goals. He's on fire!

No live reports please. This is one of PAOK's biggest moments so enjoy the game guys and take it all in by staying off your phones!! You can report everything back afterwards.

Agree but let's not forget that scandals have always existed at PAOK before Savvidis, so have bad moves, poor handling of football matters, revolving door of coaches etc. Pre Savvidis, PAOK had won 6 trophies in 86 years. Under Savvidis we have won 5 trophies in 9 years Pre Savvidis, PAOK was in debt. Under Savvidis we are financially sound Let's all agree that PAOK has been better off ever since Savvidis came. Could things be run better? no doubt 100%. Has PAOK fallen off since becoming champions? no doubt 100%

Difference though is that Lucescu was Giovinco's manager at Al Hilal last season so knows exactly what he can bring to PAOK.

I think there is a monetary value related to our position with the TV rights we signed. Cant recall though if it was only 1st position where we get a bonus or 2nd also.

Lol the funny thing is that whilst he calls you anti-PAOK he spells PAOK in lower case which to me is anti-PAOK. Ps - I'm the nicer one

some defensive stats: This was our 5th straight game where we haven't kept a clean sheet. Last clean sheet was a month ago away against Granada in the 0-0 draw in our 16 competitive matches so far this season we have kept a clean sheet 4 times. Larissa 1-0, Volos 0-0, OFI 4-0, Granada 0-0.

but it always displayed the scoreline before you pressed through to the match. Now it says you can watch at anytime without any spoilers of the result. sometimes I think I suffer from amnesia thinking to myself 'i don't remember writing that' when in fact it was paoksyd ?

Bananas, i just read the subscription package and it has the following: "Watch the On Demand games whenever you want without the platform giving away any spoilers about the result" Perfect for us Aussies to sleep in a little and watch the game "live" i just paid my tv subscription - $136.99 AUD on visa.

Has the potential to be more with bonuses: The deal is worth 7 million euros per year + 1m if the team comes 2nd or 3rd. If we win the title it's 2.5m and if we win it undefeated its another 1m. If we win the cup there's another 1m

No better time to play Benfica than now. Its a one match tie and anything can happen. Over 2 legs the better teams usually progress so I'm glad we got them now. We have already guaranteed Europa group so we have nothing to lose. Pame PAOKARA!!

Agree, very poor effort with the design. Looks like the footlocker staff shirts

Are you sure about that, I think you are misinformed You're right. Many more matches involving Olympiakos have been fixed.

Sorry Tzatziki, the CAS made their decision and cleared PAOK of any co-ownership of Xanthi. 7pts back to PAOK. You know what's fixed... the 2015 Olympiakos v Atromitos match ?