usa Trump Presidency

[Blackhawk]

pash, Indiana does not exist!

[pash]

Yet another misspelling of a proud state.

 

Sarah Palin woke up today with someone else's (working) brain: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139

Great quote by her:

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When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent."

 

[pash]

What competition? Banks regularly collude with each other.

Banks aren't "too big to fail" because of some law - it's because we've been deluded and intimidated into accepting that as a fact. Usually by the banks that needed tax dollars (sheer coincidence, I know). Thanks, Obama.

[Hudson]

The Carrier deal is for show. Only 800 jobs were "saved." For those workers, it's great, don't get me wrong. But every month 2 million jobs are lost and 2.x are created, so 1 thousand don't make a difference.

Capitalism has no country, so business move to wherever they can generate a greater profit. Usually it's the labor costs that's the biggest company expense, so companies calculate where they can operate to have maximum profit. Taxes, by the way, [and Indiana is paying a premium to keep Carrier in there] are not a top reason for company's calculation where to have a factory or office.

Imposing tariffs as a penalty for companies that move out of the US and then sell their products here is a non-starter for Republicans in Congress. They want to protect the American consumer, they say, who would have to pay higher prices for commodities.

More and better jobs are created when the middle class is strong, along with a skillful workforce.

[Hudson]

Of course, there can be tariffs. But the fact is the product becomes more expensive for the consumer. It may work if you have a choice of other domestically-made products, but this is not the case of many goods. Take Greece for example; it imports most consumer goods.

Walmart usually argues, especially this time of the year, that Americans can put lots more presents under their xmas tree because of those goodies are made outside the US. It actually estimated how much "richer" Americans are by having a higher purchasing power by buying stuff made outside the US.

 

Edited December 9, 2016 by Hudson

[gyros]

The comedy that will ensue for all the idiot Trump voters the next 4 years will be off the charts.  I'm loading up on Finance and Defense stocks so I can profit off the idiots who got conned into voting for him.  The labor secretary is a guy who things wages are too high, the EPA person thinks climate control is a hoax, and then you got the Goldman Sachs people who are the swamp creators.  

The idiot white voter who "Hates dem' foreigners" and "Make America Great Again".  The joke was on you by the master bullshitter himself, Donald Trump.  My favorite part is the Trump voters (Who I want to mention again are idiots) are defending Goldman Sachs now as a great American company and the people appointed from them are taking a pay cut and doing this as a patriotic way to help the country HAHAHA.  Stupid Stupid Stupid.

Edited December 10, 2016 by gyros

[gyros]

The true idiots are the Trump voters who have shitty jobs and feel Trump relates to them.  Yes, I've run into idiots who make $9 hour who are Republican.  They will get even more destroyed the next 4 years.  Just imagine, $9 hour and these same dopes were getting subsidized Obama care on top of this and now they will have nothing.  These idiots were hearing "Drain the swamp" and Trump was flying back home on personal jet in Manhattan and these morons swallowed all the bullshit.

Anyone that votes for a candidate for social topics (BLM, abortion, gay rights) is a major Vlaka.  The next 4 years will be a major lesson to the white idiots.  I want Trump and the Republicans to destroy these losers.  No health care, $9 hour, but you get to keep the red hat.

Edited December 10, 2016 by gyros

[gyros]

Now I just heard the CEO of Exxon is going to be the Secretary of State.  I have to hand it to the Republicans, they find the hazo Amerikani and throw social issues at them (Mexicans, illegal immigration, muslims) and hook, line, and sinker they fall for it and the elite agenda is about to take place again.  Aek66, all year you were a Trump supporter and crying about the Mexicans and you fell for it hard.  Congrats man.  When will you guys learn that its all about money.

Edited December 10, 2016 by gyros

[Hudson]

What happened to "lock her up"?   Maybe he'll be busy draining that cesspool he talked about...

First the Repubs will repeal Obamacare. Right? Then Trump will built the wall. Then he'll abolish the minimum wage. Then he'll do business only with the countries he personally has business in. 

I wonder who's the cuck now?

But, since many cons live in bizarro world, they won't notice. Faux News, Breitbart and general Flynn's conspiracies are too much for their feeble minds. To them, Obama is a non-American Muslim/communist who founded ISIS, and that global warming is a hoax.

 

[Hudson]

^^

First, you should capitalize properly. Voting for a republican isn't the same as Republican. Likewise, I may be a democrat but not a Democrat.

As to your "ILLEGAL" scream, most Americans, by big majority, want legalization of undocumented immigrants with a path to citizenship. Perhaps, the majority of Republicans think this is a huge issue. I don't know where you get your information, but this is an issue blown out of proportion to energize people like you. The same people who are concerned more about ISIS/ISIL (and its founder, B. Housein O.) than the lack of health care.

[Tzatziki]

The best thing the President elect has ever given the world (besides in addition to the lovely Ivanka) was The Roast of Donald Trump. If anyone can find the whole show I highly suggest you see it, it is gold, and worth every minute of your time. Seth MacFarlane in this roast was by far the most hilarious roast host ever that I have seen.

 

 

[Tzatziki]

Then there is this...

 

U.S. Officials Say Russian President Vladimir Putin Directly Involved with Election Hack

[JimAdams]

10 hours ago, Tzatziki said:

If anyone can find the whole show I highly suggest you see it, it is gold, and worth every minute of your time.

Comedy Central:
http://www.cc.com/shows/roast-of-donald-trump/video-guide

Look for Trump to claim credit on beating ISIS. Sorry, I meant Dickhead Trump...

 

Edited December 15, 2016 by JimAdams

[JimAdams]

The Trump Circus is in town.

 

[athinaios]

Does anyone remember Whitewater from the 1990s and most recently the Clinton Foundation?  They were both used as rallying points by the Republicans against the Clintons and the Dems. Conflict of interest, pay for play, treasonous conduct, etc. We wasted millions of dollars investigating those ..scandals, and spent thousands of hours debating the merits of those cases.

I wonder what the Republicans think nowadays with the clear conflicts of interest Trump and the people he's picked to lead important dpts and agencies of the US gov. If the Clintons had such conflicts, Trump's are 1000 times more egregious; don't need to investigate them either because they're out there in the open.

What would we hear if Obama had such conflicts?.... Or, that John Kerry was the CEO of a big industry that made deals with the Russians and then became Secy of State arguing for ..friendlier relations (lifting of sanctions) with Russia, which would subjugate national interests for private corporate interests.

"Lock 'em up" ?

 

[pash]

Conflicts of interest only matter if the other side has them. A more interesting question is, if the Democrats regain control in two years, will they do anything about it? They have traditionally had problems (read: lack of organization, willpower) dealing with being the opposition party, after all.

[athinaios]

Ina NYT oped earlier this week, the argument was that Dems should now fight like Repubs. It's not hard to imagine what Trump would be doing had he won the pop vote but lost the EC. Plus, we all know how Repubs treated Obama.

It'll be very hard for the Dems to win the House in 2 years because of Repub gerrymandering, while they'll be defending 2/3 of the open seats in the Senate. But, I think it'll all depend on Trump's approval ratings and Congress's. They will have no excuse if things go bad.  In my view, things will go bad, not because I wish it, but because of policies favored by Trump and the Repubs. The vast majority of those who voted for Trump won't get help from him or the Repubs.

[Tzatziki]

I am convinced 1789 is a shill for some corporate entity or lobbying group, he is often defending the indefensible or filibustering with his endless polemics. With all due respect to you Mr. 1789.

[Tzatziki]

1 hour ago, 1789 said:

I'm convinced you're a Kaeperwigger.

I might be, but I cannot say for sure because I honestly do not know what a Kaeperwigger is.

[Tzatziki]

[Tzatziki]

9 hours ago, 1789 said:

How is Trump going to get us all killed for taking a phone call from Taiwan and suggesting he's open to rethinking the One China policy? Again, this is Trump rattling the cage. And if we normalize relations with Russia, which is possible with someone like Tillerson, then we can strengthen our hand vis-a-vis China.

 

I never said all that, it is meant to be funny...

[Tzatziki]

They do't even have the courtesy or feel the need to hide it anymore perhaps?

[Hudson]

You may or may not have heard of the Alt-Right whose messages and people have been promoted by the media outlet Breitbart whose former CEO ran Trump's campaign and will be his White House Chief of Staff.  Some of our members here are lovers of all that collection of deplorables.... When you espouse and support such people and messages, you are also responsible. Showing up at a KKK rally claiming you're there for the smores ain't a good excuse.

So, let's be clear who those people are, both in the video and those who post here supporting such garbage. No name calling and verbal attacks against the messenger (like the Atlantic or myself or them libruls) can wash away the stench of the people the new US president empowered and is promoting. The message is clear.... 

We can't normalize this evil; it goes way beyond the ideological and policy differences between the Democrats and Republicans.

[Hudson]

Oh, how true this is ....

Edited December 21, 2016 by Hudson
Truthiness

[JimAdams]

http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/