J1078 Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 10:10 AM, Ellada2004 said: I heard on Georgiou radio show that Greece still has a chance to get in to the Nations league playoffs. They were saying if Norway, Finland or Romania get automatic qualification a spot opens up for Greece? In which case we would play Serbia in playoffs. Anyone heard anything in regards to this being an option. I don’t see how this is possible since Greece finished behind Finland and Hungary... Unless I’m missing something I don’t think it’s possible...wouldn’t Finland and Hungary both have to qualify from the euro campaign? Even then don’t they take the best 2nd place team out of group C of the nations league?
Torontoblue Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 That's is correct. Thats is why it was so important to win the group, but if not at least finish 2nd and have a slim hope. Greece finishing 3rd pretty much wrote themselves off. They will take the best 2nd place teams first if any of the 1st place teams qualify. 1
Ellada2004 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 FT Bosnia 4 Finland 1 Finland are going to choke and not get second.
J1078 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 So after all this there is still a slim chance we can get into the playoffs for the Nations League. Sport24 breaks down our slim chances. https://www.sport24.gr/football/ellada/ethniki_elladas/ethnikh-elladas-kai-omws-den-exei-akoma-apokleistei.5619135.html
Ellada2004 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, J1078 said: So after all this there is still a slim chance we can get into the playoffs for the Nations League. Sport24 breaks down our slim chances. https://www.sport24.gr/football/ellada/ethniki_elladas/ethnikh-elladas-kai-omws-den-exei-akoma-apokleistei.5619135.html So if Hungary who sit second currently in there group make it we get there spot? Only problem is they have 1 game left and Slovakia and wales have two. Though Slovakia have to play Croatia. Would be something if we could get a second chance.
J1078 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Ellada2004 said: So if Hungary who sit second currently in there group make it we get there spot? Only problem is they have 1 game left and Slovakia and wales have two. Though Slovakia have to play Croatia. Would be something if we could get a second chance. I’m not sure if that’s the only thing required, I think Hungary Finland and either Serbia or Romania have to get in as well.. something like that as it needs to be a combination of things in order to get us in..
Ellada2004 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, J1078 said: I’m not sure if that’s the only thing required, I think Hungary Finland and either Serbia or Romania have to get in as well.. something like that as it needs to be a combination of things in order to get us in.. Finland is all but in. Serbia have a playoff spot already but is not likely going to overtake Portugal for 2nd. Romania are in third place in there group. Anyways it's a bit confusing but if we can squeeze in it would be awesome and if Greece play as they did vs Bosnia I think we would have a good shot vs Serbia, Scotland etc.. Its a shame EPO didn't hire JVS from the start of this campaign. Looking back at our results Greece should have had 8 more points which would have us ahead of Finland. Ah such a waste...
Alphonse Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Crazy the opportunities we have passed up... what could have been... 1
Jimmyp Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 It all seems very confusing to me. But I’ll take it any way we can get it. So we can finish 5th in the group and still have a shot?
Alphonse Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 We do but there is a 2% chance of this happening - we would need this Serbia - Beat Ukraine & Luxembourg Portugal - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Lithuania and Luxembourg Hungary - Beat Wales Slovakia - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Croatia and Azerbaijan Norway - Beat Faroe Islands and Malta Romania - Beat Sweden and lose to Spain Sweden - Lose to Romania and get no more than a draw with Faroe's Israel - Beat Poland and Skopje Slovenia - Lose to Poland Austria - Lose to Skopje and Latvia Finland - Beat Liechtenstein Cant see those in bold happening, especially Portugal not beating both Lithuania and Lux - that would mean Serbia takes their place in auto qualifiers All this would mean - Norway, Serbia, Finland, Israel and Hungary all qualify directly and we get a play off spot via League of Nations 1
Ellada2004 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Alphonse said: We do but there is a 2% chance of this happening - we would need this Serbia - Beat Ukraine & Luxembourg Portugal - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Lithuania and Luxembourg Hungary - Beat Wales Slovakia - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Croatia and Azerbaijan Norway - Beat Faroe Islands and Malta Romania - Beat Sweden and lose to Spain Sweden - Lose to Romania and get no more than a draw with Faroe's Israel - Beat Poland and Skopje Slovenia - Lose to Poland Austria - Lose to Skopje and Latvia Finland - Beat Liechtenstein Cant see those in bold happening, especially Portugal not beating both Lithuania and Lux - that would mean Serbia takes their place in auto qualifiers All this would mean - Norway, Serbia, Finland, Israel and Hungary all qualify directly and we get a play off spot via League of Nations Ok thanks for the info. That is more complicated than the playoff scenario we had for the 2018 wcup.
Jimmyp Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Alphonse said: We do but there is a 2% chance of this happening - we would need this Serbia - Beat Ukraine & Luxembourg Portugal - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Lithuania and Luxembourg Hungary - Beat Wales Slovakia - Gain no more than 4 points from 2 matches with Croatia and Azerbaijan Norway - Beat Faroe Islands and Malta Romania - Beat Sweden and lose to Spain Sweden - Lose to Romania and get no more than a draw with Faroe's Israel - Beat Poland and Skopje Slovenia - Lose to Poland Austria - Lose to Skopje and Latvia Finland - Beat Liechtenstein Cant see those in bold happening, especially Portugal not beating both Lithuania and Lux - that would mean Serbia takes their place in auto qualifiers All this would mean - Norway, Serbia, Finland, Israel and Hungary all qualify directly and we get a play off spot via League of Nations Better chance of us winning the powerball if all those need to happen. 1
Alphonse Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 Ok step 1... pray Lithuania play out of their teeth and draw Portugal.. they play in the stadium we lost to Russia at Euro 04.
Torontoblue Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 Portugal up 6-0. Ronaldo hat trick. Oh well
Alphonse Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) After I posted that and went to check what type of run Lithuania are on... They lost to Luxembourg in March and draw with them in June... and they have won 1 game in the last 3 years (a friendly against Armenia)!! good night Irene. Edited November 14, 2019 by Alphonse
Jimmyp Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 This is a very bad system. You should have to earn your qualifying by taking care of your own business. Even if those things all happened does Greece really deserve to get in after these results. Please.
Bardouuu Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 I think we’re getting head of ourselves. We had two good games. Two entertaining games. Change has not necessarily taken place yet. We could go in tomorrow and lose 10 zero and be back on our BS. The team needs atleast 6-7 games under this coach for us to say we’ve rebuilt. Last stretch could just as easily have been a fluke. I’m excited to see what tomorrow brings
Alphonse Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) I agree AchilliesHeel, I also think we are all pretty grounded about our realities but we can not hide our excitement at what we saw vs Bosnia and what we are seen from this new approach by JVC, which is pretty much what was needed, long way to go but at least we have seen some positives in what's been, 5 years of major mediocrity Edited November 15, 2019 by Alphonse
La Mendel Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 That crazy shitbag Anastasiadis and his crony Lambropoulos did us in against Estonia. If we would have drawn on that occasion our position in the NL playoff would be guaranteed now. We lost the second place to Hungary because of the idiotic experimenting (in an official game) of the old bozo. 1
Ellada2004 Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 22 hours ago, La Mendel said: That crazy shitbag Anastasiadis and his crony Lambropoulos did us in against Estonia. If we would have drawn on that occasion our position in the NL playoff would be guaranteed now. We lost the second place to Hungary because of the idiotic experimenting (in an official game) of the old bozo. Yes just complete stupidities from him to Sokratis & manolas. Greece should have topped the NL group. Finland are average side at best and to not go over Hungary is unreal. Had we got a draw in Finland in Euro qualifying and won at home vs Armenia & Liechtenstein. Greece would be 1 point ahead of ?? with the upcoming last game in Athens determining second place. Now that Sokratis & Manolas got there wish and got Ange fired they thought they would get control of the NT and be untouchable but JVS may never call them up again if the team keeps the results coming and with the other options we have in the back they have fallen down the pecking order.
J1078 Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 So now that Greece are officially eliminated when does the Nations league start for the World Cup?
Antaeus7 Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 If only Greece had gotten 5 points from Armenia and Liechtenstein at home, they would have battled Finland for 2nd place in Monday's match. 1
Chris Tsamados Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 So what does coming third get you? I thought it was nothing but the commentator in England's game against Kosovo was saying Kosovo still have a chance to make the playoffs (they're currently third and have no way of getting second).
J1078 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Chris Tsamados said: So what does coming third get you? I thought it was nothing but the commentator in England's game against Kosovo was saying Kosovo still have a chance to make the playoffs (they're currently third and have no way of getting second). Probably taking about the Nations league.. Third gets you nothing.
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