Ethnikos Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) . Edited December 23, 2015 by Ethnikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 It's starting to sound like we are going to lose Kace. He just rejected another offer and Lazio is sniffing around again ... I'm starting to think it would be smart to just cash in on his value. Charisis (if he can stay healthy) has nearly the same attributes. Throw in Cimirot (not exactly the same skill set), an improving Sabo, an intriguing Antonis, etc., I no longer see it is the great loss I would have back in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Charisis spends most of his time injured, and I think Antonis is going to get loaned out. Leaves just Tziolis, Cimirot (also often injured) and Sabo (who sometimes is played in a different position). If we can't keep our strongest players, we have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Cimirot is better player than Kace, and is not often injured as you say. He was only injure once in the first game against Xanthi. The problem was that for some weird reason he was not utilized Tudor even though he has been healthy for almost month and a half. Antonis will miss at least one month so he can play with the Australian U23 NT, so we can forget about him. Sabo should be a sub for Tziolis (or Tziolis should be a sub for Sabo), but for some reason Tudor plays him in every imaginable position. Speaking of Kace he has been quite disappointing this season. It probably has to do with the apparent contract negotiations. Now that he has fired the agent that also represents Tzandaris, Skondras and Konstantinidis, let's see if the negotiations lead somewhere. As for the Lazio rumors, if I was PAOK I would tell them to bring the 5 mil buyout option and they can have him. Transfer wise we need one or two CBs, and a good "dekari" to help the offense, since Pelkas's abilities are quite limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Also I would scrap the Pereyra loan deal to Racing Club, and bring him back to PAOK. He can help offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I would DEFINITELY bring back Pereyra. Kace fired his agent? That is awesome news. Might be a sign of intent on his part, a willingness to "play ball" with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 @pash It's tough to keep good players if teams from the top-5 leagues show interest. If Lazio want Kace we have zero chance and it's hard to argue. Arnesen valued him at E4 mill earlier this year so I say deal him! If we are being 100% honest, I don't think he gets much better. He is at or near his ceiling. Undersized for his position and not a great north-south passer nor does he have particularly good field vision. His strengths are set pieces, his motor, and the ability to cut passing lanes. Those can be replaced. @Blackhawk I agree that Cimirot is a "better" player, but he is more creator and less defender. The ability to see open spaces, hold and advance the ball upfield are way tougher to find than what Kace brings. He needs to play. Tziolis > Sabo and arguably our most "important" player this season. I think a Tziolis-Charisis-Cimirot/Pelkas midfield trio is our best option. Pelkas has gotten praise from Berba, Tudor, Arnesen and Pacienca at Setubal. He has talent but lacks consistency. He is young with <50 games of top flight football. Patience is important, admittedly a trait not found in our DNA as PAOK fans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontos Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Pougouras has been playing at Veria, I'd bring him back just so we're not rotating Tziois through the backline. A centre back, playmaker and a striker are my main concerns going into the January transfer window. Strengthen that spine and we can get away what we have out wide, rotate a few youngsters through those wide positions. As far players we've been linked with, Henrique from Napoli seems like he'd do well in our side and Kramaric is someone I'd be really excited about. I haven't seen us linked with a dekari yet but it would have to be someone with a superior passing range to Pelkas. Edited December 24, 2015 by Pontos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Let the silly season begin!! Linked to a loan for Immobile http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/Superleague/paok/protathhke-o-imompile-ston-paok.3832448.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 We are also interested in keeper Panagiotis Tsintota (22) from Levadiakos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontos Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Schildenfeld return stint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'd take him over Immobile. Yes, as striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't think Arnesen is so stupid as to bring in Schildenfeld back to the team. Another rumor is that Abdoun has an offer from PAOK, but I don't see that happening. He has been poor at Veroia this season and the owner of Veria and Aris might just demote him to Aris when they get promoted to Football League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Kresic is also a name that's popped up. Schildenfeld would be a horrible idea for us. We need a player who IS what Schildenfeld WAS 5 years ago when we had him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Once again we are linked to Coulibali from Platanias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 And we are linked to Georgios Galitsios, who last played for Lokeren in Belgium and has no contract right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Why is everyone we're linked to, a right back? We've got Skondras, Kitsiou, Cimirot, Sabo, and Konstantinidis there. Rodrigues too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Galitsios is a done deal from what I read. A 29 year old right back with no contract....sounds promising. :huh: Autoi mas douleuoune REEEEEEEEE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 He played for that team in Belgium for 4 years and then no one signed him. PAOK is , literally, the only team in the world that wants him...that must feel shitty, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paok4athens Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 xreiazomaste deksi back opote kalws na er8ei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) And we are linked to Finnish midfielder Kasper Hamalainen. He is 29 and plays currently for Lech Poznan. Edited December 30, 2015 by Dutch Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 They say Galitzios practiced with the team this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 When Arnesen signed with PAOK I asked if PAOKtsides have the patience to wait for a team to be built. Apparently that patience has run out and the Arnesen experiment barely lasted half a season. It's apparent that a civil war within PAOK has begun. Savvidis brought in Vezyrtzis earlier this month and basically gave him the same duties as that of Arnesen's. The apparent Galitsios signing is the first test in the Arnesen - Vezyrtzis battle. My prediction is that Arnesen along with Tudor will be gone by February or March. I always try to be an optimist, but I am starting to believe that we will never build a team that we all can be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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