RED SHERIFF Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 there will be more stages...more paperwork..more approvals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kef Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I thought it was the mayor holding things up. What else is left to be done if anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Pretty sure there is only 1 permit/licence we need to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Reaper who knows re its Greece :) but from what I was told there is one more permit they need (even though we got 50 of them already) then we can start, they are saying by March everything should be starting, lets see...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I agree mate only in Greece do teams get stopped from progressing as a club by being able to build a new stadium, one that we deserve also. The part that makes me laugh is its our own land yet all this rubbish to delay and try stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I could be wrong, like I said it's something I heard... do you know more details about how the grounds will be financed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Tzatziki you got no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE21QNS Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Keep your lingo to your self troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Che this clown actually thinks we don't know what he is playing at , if you get me :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Jvc, as far as I know Kokkali has a fifty year lease from the Greek olympic committee but all the construction costs were paid by him without any government funding. If anyone can prove otherwise I'll eat that humble pie no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Tzatziki you do realize that Kareskaki was renovated by the government for the Olympics....I've asked this many times before, can one gavro show that olympiacos fully paid for Kareskaki? What I know is...The owners of the stadium are, Hellenic Olympic committee, and Olympiakos have stopped making payments a long time ago! 60 million dollars of tax payers money, and from what I know Olympiakos doesn't even pay rent, or the promised 50 percent of their loan payment....So the government as it stands payed 80 percent of 60 million dollars for the renovations, maybe Kokalis payed 20 million but I don't believe it....I'll lean to the idea that he payed 7 million for a 60 million dollar stadium. to start with the stadium was rebuilt not renovated.....and if the stadium is owned by Hellenic Olympic Committee and we pay rent or fees what is the issue?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE21QNS Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Jvc, as far as I know Kokkali has a fifty year lease from the Greek olympic committee but all the construction costs were paid by him without any government funding. If anyone can prove otherwise I'll eat that humble pie no problem. Ahahaha yea he payed for the whole thing to be constructed but opted to rent it rather than own it.......you need some logic pie too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I think you are over looking a very important issue..... Karaiskaki was built on land owned by HOC. (thus the stadium is owned by HOC - defacto state owned)......Not land owned by the clubs...as in AEK's case... Hence the free hold land at Karaiskaki is not owned by OSFP or any President etc....never will be.. Notwithstanding this the government needs to assist in major capital projects .. I don't think funding is the issue currently with AEK......Its Greek bureaucracy... For those of you old enough to remember...OSFP was planning to build a monster stadium at Rendi....but ran into many obstacles..from within and from the outside... you may also recall that Karaiskaki was built in record time in 2003-04...for the Olympics....Athens 2004 tried to convince the IOC very late in the process that Rizoupoli was to be used for football matches....IOC rightly rejected this.....and Athens 2004 was forced to dig deep and get Karaiskaki built..... Coincidentally Kokkalis/osfp had spent millions to get Rizoupoli to a standard for GSL matches...(as it was our temporary home 2003-04)... hence why today it still looks better than a lot of other stadiums.. Edited January 2, 2016 by RED SHERIFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Karaiskaki was built without public money you dumb dumbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 The foundations were put down for this stadium but it was never continued. Off-topic but could you let us know who scuppered this stadium that would have been the most impressive stadium in Greece. 120,000 seats!! in hindsight it would have been a white elephant and a 1980s relic today...unless....it was upgraded somehow for Athens 2004... I really can't see the use of a 120k stadium in Greece...nor in most parts of the world for regular league football..... I don't really recall how.why this never went ahead....I suspect Greek planning and bureaucracy... There is a lot of illogical infighting and symbolic causes that lead to inaction in Greece... let's assume that TEN years ago both AEK and PAO had proceeded with the proposals to build new stadia at ODDY and Votanikos.....would those clubs be better off today? Probably yes... although we hear a lot of chest beating and boring greek politics and side show conspiracies as to why PAO and AEK are better off now.... sometimes progress can only be made by letting go of the past.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hellenic Olympic committee are the owners of Kareskaki dumb dumb!!! Paid in full by Olympiakos, without government money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikefale11 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Sweet jesus what is the hold up?? What licences are we waiting on now? eleos pia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 One delay after another, this is becoming a circus now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damianos Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No one actually believes it's going to happen.... No with the mentality of a lot of Greeks, politics and the financial situation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefkaditis Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 A new stadium in Greece takes longer to build than the parthenon. Pao were supposed to have a new home 30 years ago, and we're still playing in a dilapidated old stadium......when Man Utd came to Athens to play Athinaikos in 1990 their players stood there marvelling at a stadium not seen in the UK since before the war.... AEK should have a new stadium by the turn of the new century, fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 How much is the stadium going to cost and who is going to pay for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A new stadium in Greece takes longer to build than the parthenon. Pao were supposed to have a new home 30 years ago, and we're still playing in a dilapidated old stadium......when Man Utd came to Athens to play Athinaikos in 1990 their players stood there marvelling at a stadium not seen in the UK since before the war.... AEK should have a new stadium by the turn of the new century, fingers crossed. I am sure a lot of uefa stadia in 1990 were of similar standard,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 :...: Did Man U play at Vyrona? Does that stadium still exist?? I remember it so well with the big mountain :lol: they played at Leoforo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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