PAOKSWEDEN Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Dutch Eagle// Here you go! Average attendance/tickets sold in total: Hammarby - 25 507 382 607 AIK - 20 983 314 750 Malmo - FF 17 332 259 973 Djurgarden - 15 484 232 263 IFK Goteborg - 14 350 215 256 IFK Norrkoping - 10 296 154 443 IF Elfsborg - 9 239 138 579 Helsingborgs IF - 8 138 122 071 Orebro - 7 074 106 107 Kalmar FF - 6 163 92 443 GIF Sundsvall - 5 050 75 749 Halmstads BK - 4 675 70 119 Gefle IF FF - 4 258 63 877 Atvidabergs FF 3 801 57 019 BK Hacken - 3 565 53 480 Falkenbergs FF - 3 557 53 362 in total: 2 392 098 Guys, I think the biggest reason for the low attendances out of the top-flight teams is that our top teams are unproportionally big in comparison to our population. The top flight teams are supported all over Greece and that has caused a big harm to the local football teams, while the big clubs have benefited from this and been given the opportunity to grow. In Sweden, the teams are only supported in the respective cities or the nearby cities without any football teams in the higher divisions. The effects of this are both positive and negative. On the bright side, the teams in the league are quite equal and the last 10 championships have actually been won by seven different teams. The negative outcome is that the lack of consistency has prevented any team from growing to the size of the greek top-flight clubs. I'm not saying that the one thing is better than the other, I myself support PAOK living about 2 hours from Thessaloniki. Edited December 24, 2015 by PAOKSWEDEN
pash Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 The only notable Swedish name I can think of is Malmo (to a much lesser extent, AIK), so I can see your point. Which would you rather have? I remember on a recent trip to Volos seeing PAOK graffiti; is that something that should bother me? I think the team has been pretty open about wanting to increase its visibility and fan base.
Dutch Eagle Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks PAOKSWEDEN and Teke. Off corse there are differences between Holland and Greece. But cities like Komotini, Xanthi and Veria have about 66K inhabitants and then there are de villages around. And Thessaloniki not far away. One of my cousins always goes to those matches and the stadiums are always filled with PAOKtsides from everywhere. Tickets are about 10-15 euro. Greeks are considered to be great and passionate fans here in Holland. Everywhere they go they do not outnumber the homebased fans but their singing sounds double so loud. And than still > 2K spectators??? Ioannina 111K inhabitants. Atromitos are in Athens. Maybe it is the economic crisis. Or the subscrivers to NOVA. Of topic: Where from Greece are your roots PAOKSWEDEN? Mine are from Kilkis but when I am in Greece I am in Chalkidiki. One hour drive from Toumba.
PAOKSWEDEN Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Pash// Actually, I don't know what I prefer. I want PAOK to be a club as big as possible and to have a league that can attract players like Berbatov, Gilberto Silva, Rivaldo etc, but at the same time I want a more even league where more teams compete about the title. I think the Belgian league is a suitable role model for us. The population is similar to Greece's. I myself get amazed when I see PAOK graffiti and syndesmous in places outside of Thessaloniki, since I've never experienced the same in Sweden. The problem with supporters that support the big teams outside their own cities is that many of them don't attend the matches of their local teams and that they don't have the possibilities to attend the matches of their supported teams as the supporters living in example Thessaloniki or Athens. This causes a big problem for the greek football, as this phenomenon generates less money for the clubs. The biggest losers though isn't the big clubs but the smaller clubs, like those we can see struggle to get decent attendances on their matches in the Super League. The huge interest in football is there around them, but it is directed to the big-5 of Greece. All this being said, don't take offense by this guys. I am involved in this myself by supporting and spending money on PAOK instead of my local team, Doxa dramas, but if half of the clubs in the league can't manage to have an attendance higher than 2k I think we have a big problem, especially as the interest in football is huge in Greece. I should add though, this problem has become visible under the crisis that we've had for the last five-six years and I can understand that people think more about if it's worth to spend money on football, and especially on the "small" teams. In a few years, when we've come out of the crisis, this might not be a problem anymore but let's see and just hope for the best :) Dutch Eagle// My roots are from Drama and that's where I spend my summers. About 1 hour to get to the beaches of Nea Peramos.
RED SHERIFF Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 greeks are apathetic.....that's why the crowds are so low... not sure how big the interest in football is.....its a tribal primitive passion by a few...but not a sport that is really understood or loved by the greater population... the 5000 v Italy for a friendly a few years ago, is a very symbolic pointer as to how much interest there is in football....
Dutch Eagle Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Our former player and coach Pavlos Dermitzakis is talking with PAOK (Nikos Vezirtzis) for the job as the new team manager.
pash Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 You're not referring to manager as in, replacing Tudor, right?
Blackhawk Posted December 29, 2015 Author Posted December 29, 2015 No he would take the position that Pantelis Konstantinidis had in the past, and the one that Tasos Kakkos would take over if there was no backlash from the fans.
Dutch Eagle Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Tzavellas will miss the matches against Veria and Atromitos after his seventh yellow card of the season.
Blackhawk Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 And Leovac will miss Veroia for the same reason.
Rockafeller Skank Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 So can someone tell me what happened to pelkas ? don't seem to see his name so often written in the assists and goals areas. Is he even playing ? Is he playing bad or is his role a bit back.
pash Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Played in the last match, you can find some details in the Giannina match thread.
Blackhawk Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 He gets playing time on regular basis. He's ok, but not the "10" that will make the difference. That's why I think we need some experienced player in that position.
teke817 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Interesting column on inpaok.com today about Kace's disappearance the last few games ... Although they say it has nothing at all to do with rejecting our contract offers, I can't help but think it has a little bit to play in the decision, if you think Charisis and Cimirot are going to be your midfield anchors next season, why not play them more?
Dutch Eagle Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Glykos is injured and out for two months. So, we need a good goalkeeper soon! Markos Vellidis is apparently our big goal right now to help us to solve this problem.
Dutch Eagle Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Kace got his fourth yellow today and therefore will be suspended for one game. Other than in most civilised countries it won't be the next game but one of the next four upcoming games, not being the Xanthi away-game as this is a game of an earlier matchday.
PAOKSWEDEN Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Hahaha, PAOKtsis o Barack Obama https://www.facebook.com/inpaok/videos/vb.428417097233417/994163690658752/?type=2&theater¬if_t=like Edited January 28, 2016 by PAOKSWEDEN 1
Blackhawk Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 Only the guys at Radio Arvila can make such funny videos. Good stuff. 1
BostonThanatos Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Jairo and Rodrigues out for a month. This is laughable.
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