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Saw the Melbourne Club PAOK guys had Angelides, Tudor, Klaus, Tziolis, Tzavellas, Tzavellas and Antonis all sent their thanks for support and congratulations for the MCP's 20th birthday, which was nice of the club to do

A couple hinting they'd like the club to visit Australia one day.

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Dimitris Konstantinidis renewed his contract till July 1st 2019.

Good to build a squad or otherwise to get a nice fee when he is ready to be sold.

 

Out for 6 months.  What rotten luck.  Gets into the Europa League Team of the Round a couple of weeks back, and now this.

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I am afraid Konstantinidis's career as a top level professional player are probably over. Every single season at PAOK he has sustained serious injury keeping him from action for months at a time. Too bad as he has talent.

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The average sold tickets in this years SL so far:

1 PAOK 20,061

2 Oly 18,441

3 AEK 15,259

4 Pana 7,382

5 Iraklis 3,247

15 Kalloni 864

16 Atromitos 850

Must mention that we have already played against the Gavs and AEK at home. After next home game against Panathinaikos the average probably will drop.

The avarage has dropped indeed. But also for most of the other teams.

These are the averages after last weekends games

1 Olympiakos 19,998

2 PAOK 13,670

3 AEK 10,113

4 Panathinaikos 9,122

5 Iraklis 4,321

6 Panetolikos 2,255

7 PAS Giannina 1,814

8 Veria 1,725

9 Platanias 1,679

10 Asteras Tripolis 1,666

11 Skoda Xanthi 1,544

12 Panionios 1,459

13 Panthrakikos 1,389

14 Levadiakos 1,078

15 Atromitos 1,060

16 Kalloni 945

Only 6 clubs have an average of more than 2,000. Professional football in Greece.........

Veria have already played at home against AEK, PAOK, Pana, Oly, Iraklis, Atromitos and Asteras and still can not manage to fill the stadium.

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I think it's reliable.

It refers to the official Supa Liek site and there only the matches count with fans.

Therefore PAOK has not the 17 games due to ban. This year Pana has only 5 games with fans therefore only those games are counted,

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PAOK average attendance 2014-15: 10 052

PAOK average attendance 2009-10: 17 486

 

Total tickets sold in the Super League 2014-15: 936 686

                      -II-                                   2009-10: 1 970 293

 

Hopefully Larissa, Aris and Ofi will replace some of the teams with an average attendance of 1-2k in the following years. Just take a look on the stats for the current season, eleven of the teams have an average attendance of 2200 and under...

 

Source: http://www.superleaguegreece.net/el/schedule/2014-2015-13

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SWEDEN your status included de play-offs.

What a waste.

How are the figures in Sweden?

In Holland this season so far:

1 Ajax 48.243

2 Feyenoord 47.500

3 PSV 33.388

4 FC Twente 25.425

5 sc Heerenveen 23.452

6 FC Groningen 20.729

7 FC Utrecht 17.163

8 Vitesse 16.483

9 AZ Alkmaar 14.638

10 Roda JC Kerkrade 14.204

11 Willem II 12.251

12 PEC Zwolle 12.146

13 ADO Den Haag 11.846

14 Heracles Almelo 11.591

15 NEC Nijmegen 11.336

16 De Graafschap 9.972

17 SC Cambuur 9.765

18 SBV Excelsior 3.359 (and max. capacity)

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You really can't compare Holland to Greece. It's 17 million people vs. 10 million, a wealthier population, wealthier teams, and superb stadiums that attract even casual fans. Greece has 11 cities with more than 100,000 people. Netherlands has 25. The Amsterdam metro area (Amsterdam-Rotterdam-Utrecht) is like 7 million people. Athens metro area is 4 million. That's why you see those attendance figures for the top 5 ... 

 

At the same time, it's embarrassing that we can have teams in the top division with 80-year old 1500 seat stadiums. They wouldn't meet the criteria to host a UEL or UCL game. 

 

It's an idea that's been floated to the EPO before, but the SL would be well served by having 12-teams (max) in the top flight (like Belgium), encouraging consolidation of clubs from provincial areas, and requiring some minimum standards for stadiums. It would vastly improve the quality and competitiveness of the league.

 

Oh and get rid of the ridiculous playoff. The SL has one of, if not THE longest season of any of the top 15 leagues in Europe. I think it's why our teams get smoked in UEL. Too little time for rest and pre-season camps for the 4th and 5th place teams. PAOK will be playing European or league games from July '15 to June '16.

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If we drop to 12, a playoff would make more sense to me. But I am very against the idea of meeting an opponent more than twice per season.

 

I'm not against the idea of having minimum standards for inclusion in the league - it would allow the smaller teams to still have a reason to compete (they can win the league, after all), but penalizing them for not investing in themselves.

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