Jimmyp Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, georgelaz said: siovas and kourbelis (who's a cdm/cb) are both good ball playing cb's but sokratis and manolas are better defensively. sokratis and manolas usually just do conservative passes to the wings. I think siovas and Kourbelis should start next game also. They didn’t do anything to lose their place. The team won. Take out Bakasetas and start Donis. Keep the rest the same. They did well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jimmyp said: I think siovas and Kourbelis should start next game also. They didn’t do anything to lose their place. The team won. Take out Bakasetas and start Donis. Keep the rest the same. They did well. I dunno it's cuz it was just liechenstein they didn't really have much threats. bosnia is a different animal. sokratis has shown he's capable of man marking dzeko out of a game. if he's 100% we gotta start sokratis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Starting Socratis is not even a question and if it is a question it’s a really dumb one.. If Socratis is healthy of course you start him.. you can build confidence from the Liechtenstein game but by no means can you judge how our defenders defended in that game.. Edited March 25, 2019 by J1078 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, J1078 said: Agree but it also could have been a lot worse as we could have been paired in the Netherlands and Germany, Spain and Sweden, all in all we did get a group that at the very least should give us a chance to qualify. No excuses we need to finish 2nd in this group. Yes being drawn into the same group as Germany and Holland would have been the hardest possible draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, J1078 said: Starting Socratis is not even a question and if it is a question it’s a really dumb one.. If Socratis is healthy of course you start him.. you can build confidence from the Liechtenstein game but by no means can you judge how our defenders defended in that game.. Well In that case, you can’t really judge anyone else either right? I mean then you may as well not stop and say Donis scored. But it was only Liechtenstein. Which I’m sure 99 percent of the goalies in the world would’ve stopped. Vlachodimos can’t be judged either. He did nothing. You can say the same thing about every player. Can’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmyp said: Well In that case, you can’t really judge anyone else either right? I mean then you may as well not stop and say Donis scored. But it was only Liechtenstein. Which I’m sure 99 percent of the goalies in the world would’ve stopped. Vlachodimos can’t be judged either. He did nothing. You can say the same thing about every player. Can’t you? sokratis donis and vlacho are in form and play at bigger clubs then siovas and kourbelis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I never said Sokratis isn’t good enough to start. That would be ridiculous. Of course he is. I’m just a firm believer in rewarding players who have worked hard and have won. I like the saying if it’s not broken don’t fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, georgelaz said: sokratis donis and vlacho are in form and play at bigger clubs then siovas and kourbelis. What does club team have to do with it? I would hardly call Stuttgart a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jimmyp said: What does club team have to do with it? I would hardly call Stuttgart a big club. bigger and better then pao or leganes at the moment. they've also won the bundesliga 5 times and is worth 140 million compared to olympiakos which is worth 60 million according to transfermarkt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimmyp said: Well In that case, you can’t really judge anyone else either right? I mean then you may as well not stop and say Donis scored. But it was only Liechtenstein. Which I’m sure 99 percent of the goalies in the world would’ve stopped. Vlachodimos can’t be judged either. He did nothing. You can say the same thing about every player. Can’t you? Sokratis is one of our main players along with Vlachodimos, Donis, Manolas and Fortounis. They are at a higher level than most of our players so it shouldn’t be questioned. I agree with you though you shouldn’t really change a winning team. Also Kourbelis played well and should play again. I’d be disappointed if he was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbxk508 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Good read. https://m.sport24.gr/Columns/themis-kaisaris/ethnikh-kati-san-flasaki.5471344.html Pretty good analysis of the match, the players and where we are the minute. A lot of positives from the win but we need to put in perspective. It was Lietchenstein. The campaign and tougher opponents will define who can and can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, georgelaz said: bigger and better then pao or leganes at the moment. they've also won the bundesliga 5 times and is worth 140 million compared to olympiakos which is worth 60 million according to transfermarkt They’re going to get relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The competition he plays against week in and week out is miles ahead. Getting marked by Hummels is different than getting marked by anyone in the superleague... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomOfBosnia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hi there everyone, I'm always looking forward to games against Greece, because I know it's gonna be tough and interesting game that brings out the best out of players. May the better team win tomorrow! Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomOfBosnia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, tantra129 said: what is the state of the Bosnian NT these days? I'd say it's good. Sokratis' teammate Kolašinac had a minor injury so he missed Armenia game, but he should be ready tomorrow. Apart from that no other injury problems. All in all, our team is weaker than 2014. when we played World cup having only two class players now Džeko and Pjanić, but we will see what future brings. I know Greece also have some injured players, but that doesn't have to mean anything. Edited March 25, 2019 by KingdomOfBosnia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosaca Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, tantra129 said: what is the state of the Bosnian NT these days? Hello. It has been a while since I last wrote here, who knew we would be in this situation again so soon? Bosnia has undergone a transformation under new manager Robert Prosinečki who can certainly put up some impressive numbers to his name so far. Since Robert Prosinečki took over, Bosnia have only conceded 4 goals in the last 10 games, one of those being a 93rd minute deflection against Northern Ireland. The current team is much more organized, disciplined and defensively compact than the one Greece played in the last qualification campaign - the fact Bosnia has been promoted to Divison A of the UEFA Nations League is proof of this. However, Bosnia has lost its offensive touch and finds it harder to come to goals and chances than would have previously been the case. For example, the team only managed one shot on target in the game against Austria at home and that was the shot that resulted in the only goal of the game, giving Bosnia a 1-0 victory. I expect a hard match tomorrow, it could go either way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Press conference Edited March 25, 2019 by J1078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Greece has got to be one of the most wild car national teams out there. Probably why so many of us stick around after shocking campaigns. We can beat a world class Belgium and lose to Faroe Islands in the span of 1-2 years. Very curious which Greece shows up this campaign. I have low expectations and usually Greece steps up when expectations are low. It's a paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, georgelaz said: Greece has got to be one of the most wild car national teams out there. Probably why so many of us stick around after shocking campaigns. We can beat a world class Belgium and lose to Faroe Islands in the span of 1-2 years. Very curious which Greece shows up this campaign. I have low expectations and usually Greece steps up when expectations are low. It's a paradox. Greece tied Belgium on the 89th minute Lukaku goal but I get what your saying. We deserved that game if not for stupid 2nd yellow given by the ref to Tachtsidis. Greece get amped up for the bigger tests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) ^ Yes I'm fully aware of the draw but both our games were very competitive against them. this Bosnia game imo is make or break. It's tough because it's away game. I find out NT has a poor psychology but if we build momentum belief sets in. the poor start vs. romania euro 2016 was very pivotal. I think our qualifying chances very much rest on this Bosnia game. if we get a draw or win then we have a very good chance to qualify. If we don't win I think it's a very serious uphill climb (even though it shouldn't be) actually, if you ask me from the traditional top 8 NT giants who we'd have the best chance of beating I'd put Italy up there. (eg) Germany, France, England, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Italy) Italy are traditionally a slowish defensive style and they rely on set pieces (they're very similar to us). They have more skill whereas we have more strength to muscle them off set pieces easily. Edited March 25, 2019 by georgelaz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 For me this is the make it or break it game for us. We lose we don't qualify for the Euros.. This game is HUGE for us... At the very least we need to come out with 1 point but should try for the win... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'm reading that Donis will be the striker and Kolovos, Masouras and Bakasetas will challenge for the 2 wing spots.... Does this make sense to anybody??? why in the world wouldn't you use Donis on the wing and take advantage of his speed along with Masouras and Kolouris as a striker?? Can you imagine Kolovos and Bakasetas on the wing?. I hope the Coach is smarter then this and I hope he learns from Bakasetas last match as he was the worst player on the field.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvis1981 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Final score aside, I want to see Greece play well. Sometimes you play great and still get unlucky. I have not seen Greece too many good games of late. It's time to step up their game and show that they belong. It's a long tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 if we don't do this in attacking third we'll lose. koulouris/mitro donis fortounis masouras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, georgelaz said: if we don't do this in attacking third we'll lose. koulouris/mitro donis fortounis masouras I agree but it seems like he’s going to stick with Donis as the striker.. Also Mitro is out 100% so he is not an option.. I will be speechless if bakasetas starts in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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