J1078 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) Sport 24 just reported Socratis is only 50-50 to play in the playoffs.. Edited November 5, 2017 by J1078 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I agree we should not be negative. What for? Didn't you hear what Sokratis said? We are becoming a team again and it doesn't matter if we don't make it to the world cup. Of course that is our aim now. But the first and most important goal was to become a team. We have done that now. I agree that Skibbe's choices at call ups have not been the best and his decisions to leave out Fetfatzidis and Holebas is a big loss, but so what? We are getting results. Skibbe has reverted back to you our successful way and that's playing defensive first and counter second. Yeah I don't agree with Tziolis playing but if we are WINNING then so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 14 hours ago, J1078 said: I agree kpaps is a good player but we definitely take a huge step back with out Manolas. I'm worried that kpaps slower speed may force him to take some rough tackles in the box that can lead to a penalty or close range free kicks for Croatia. Its going to be very hard to keep Croatia off the board. I'm so pissed with Fifa bullshit decision.. I'm nervous as F*** right now.... This is a sham of a suspension so many Greeks I told could not believe that they brought down this ruling and the sheer timing of it is even more perplexing. Victory will be sweet over Croatia and over FIFA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 13 hours ago, Boxou said: apparently he will be fine. two players got called up to be prepared for everything though however, guess what, skibbe called FACKING kolovetsios and oikonomou instead of siovas. to sum up we have 2 players that should be in the squad no matter what, but have been left out, and instead they will be replaced by FACKING kolovetsios and vellios. just resign the cvnt skibbe already, after the humiliation against croatia with his choices. retarded. I don't understand why Skibbe would panic like that by calling up 2 cbs instead if 1. Doesn't he realize he called up Papadopoulos and Retsos. Tzavellas can play in that position. Now we know Sokratis is fit to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockafeller Skank Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Dean97 said: I don't understand why Skibbe would panic like that by calling up 2 cbs instead if 1. Doesn't he realize he called up Papadopoulos and Retsos. Tzavellas can play in that position. Now we know Sokratis is fit to play. I suppose Fifa allowed him to call one extra for the Manolas incident and one extra for Sokratis who is not 100% certain. Although Knowing Sokratis I think he will be a starter injured or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I thought the MRI showed it was clear, now it's up to him to get over the knock. Regarding calling up two cbs, it doesn't matter who they are as they probably will not play. We have Retsos and Papadopoulos as pretty much locks. Skibbe can always shift Tzavellas there and play Staf as a left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Brklyngrk said: I thought the MRI showed it was clear, now it's up to him to get over the knock. Regarding calling up two cbs, it doesn't matter who they are as they probably will not play. We have Retsos and Papadopoulos as pretty much locks. Skibbe can always shift Tzavellas there and play Staf as a left back. He also played Tziolis at CB for the end of the Gibraltar match. I think we are more than covered at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I can't see a warrior like Sokratis missing out on these games with a spot in the World Cup on the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Rockafeller Skank said: I suppose Fifa allowed him to call one extra for the Manolas incident and one extra for Sokratis who is not 100% certain. Although Knowing Sokratis I think he will be a starter injured or not. he can call up as much as 25 players i think but in the end of the day the squad will be consisted of 23. probably he called up 2 because of manolas's suspension and sokratis' injury. the problem is why in those 2 players there's not siovas again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I Just heard on the Greek radio station that Socratis is highly doubtful and Torosidis will most likely be out as well. Skibbe in a interview said "he cant believe Fifa would do this after a month he is so shocked and players all over the world do that all the time and waste time to get yellow cards to be clean for a certain game and its a completely wrong and surprising decision" The team has been hammered and the confidence of the team is not as high with all of these injuries. You can sense this in Skibbes interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Skibbe frustrated with FIFA’s decision to suspend Manolas During Monday’s press conference, Michael Skibbe expressed his frustration with FIFA’s decision to hand Kostas Manolas a one-match suspension for deliberately picking up a yellow card in September's qualifier away to Cyprus. The German boss stated that FIFA’s decision was wrong, mentioning that players around the world pick up cards on purpose in the final minutes of a game to waste time without further consequences. He went on to say that the decision came four weeks after the incident further adding to FIFA’s unacceptable handling of the situation. In Monday’s press conference before the start of Greece’s first training session Skibbe stated “Surely we have some problems. We are playing against Croatia, a very good team with very good players, especially in their attacking line, and because of that, we will have to put up a great fight. The team is ready for these matches. We have some injury problems and we do not know what will happen with Papastathopoulos and Torosidis as both are doubtful at this point for the first leg. We also have two players that will surely not be with us, including Donis and Mantalos, with the later having suffered a very serious injury which truly saddened me. The other problem we have is Manolas’ suspension. Sometimes FIFA makes some “special” decisions and this one is “special.” I do not know how they decided this. We were winning 1:2 against Cyprus and in the final minutes of a game, every team across the world would tell its players to pick up a yellow card for time wasting. Every team wastes time. That is what happened with Manolas, he picked up a card late in the game against Cyprus and did not play against Gibraltar. And now FIFA decided, four weeks later, to punish him for something that ALL players do. What FIFA did was not right. Despite that, we must play against Croatia and we must be ready. We have been working for two years for these matches and to go to Russia. We will play against Croatia, who has a very good team, but we will also fight with the players we have available in order to qualify for the World Cup.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I can't recall the last time a decision like this one vs Manolas was made, especially just before a World Cup playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Ellada2004 said: I can't recall the last time a decision like this one vs Manolas was made, especially just before a World Cup playoff. It's never been done that's the BS part.. especially waiting a month after the fact and to see if Manolas was healthy and picked for the squad looks pretty shady to me.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKARA Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Anyone seen the odds for this game? You'll think Greece are San Marino by looking at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Ya the odds are insane they're literally giving Greece no chance at all.. The odds are as if Croatia is playing a minnow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroates Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Hi everyone! As you can realize from my name, I'm a Croat, and I've joined this forum to discuss the upcoming games with you guys - it's always fun and interesting to see how the other side sees the things. :) Before anything else, I'd like to point out Greece is not being underestimated - neither by Croatian press or Croatian supporters. It's true there are 2 coaches who said something like "We will go through, no doubt about it" (someone mentioned this on the first pages of this topic), but these two are old, currently unemployed coaches who are just seeking for some extra attention. Before the draw, when people were asked about what team would they want Croatia to play against in the Playoffs, answer one would get most often was: "Anyone, just not Greece." So, your team has all the respect here. I don't know if you're aware of this, but the atmosphere around Croatian football team is quite bad. Our FA is corrupted, the championship is irregular, some leading persons are dealing with very serious accusations (some already at the court) etc. Fans want them to leave so hard, the team was sabotaged many times (crowd trouble during Italy-Croatia game; swastika drawn during Croatia-Italy game; flares thrown during EURO2016 game vs. Czech Republic). The players are being quiet about it, pretending everything is ok, which annoys the fans, and many have turned their back on the team, refusing to support it. So, our situation is far from good. Also, the weather forecast for Thursday is quite bad. Having in mind Zagreb stadium is a complete mess (in every aspect), and the fact your team will probably be focusing on defense, these conditions might be suiting you. Edited November 7, 2017 by Kroates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Got a feeling sokratis will play just don't how our defence will be without manolas and torosidis! Yes torosidis is reaching the end of a great career but he has always created a spark when needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 milan badelj (croatian midfieler, fiorentina) will be out of the game. and there's nothing official about torosidis so far, neither sokratis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Well, I hope the Pirates B team can get the job done. Manol and Sok probably out, Tziolara in for cover-that's about even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, ausgreek said: Well, I hope the Pirates B team can get the job done. Manol and Sok probably out, Tziolara in for cover-that's about even. No indication that Sokratis is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Kroates - Welcome to the forum! I did see before the draw that a few of your nationals did say that. Greece is currently going through an injury bug (we will be without our two starting wingers) and FIFA just suspended one of our best defenders (our other starting cb is in a race for fitness) for a rule that has never been enforced before. I guess the circumstances are less then ideal for both our teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroates Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Brklyngrk - efharisto poly! As Boxou mentioned, Badelj is definitely out, but seems Mandzukic (Juventus) as well. If so, he will probably be substituted with Kalinic (AC Milan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Mandzukic will be fit, it is being reported today and pretty much official. Edited November 7, 2017 by Argy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, PAOKARA said: Anyone seen the odds for this game? You'll think Greece are San Marino by looking at them. It's 33% for Greece to win the whole shebang no? I think that's fair odds. 66% chance for a draw first game. If we can get a draw in Croatia I think it shifts to us being favourites. Especially when we get Manolas back. That's the equivalent of them missing Rakitic. Edited November 7, 2017 by georgelaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tsamados Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'm surprised FIFA can't work out a reason to ban Mitroglou as well, so we have it even tougher. A-holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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