Bananas Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Dutch Eagle said: Huh?! Since when has EPO or Supa League or a club like AEK any jurisdiction on the streets around the stadium? What a stupid decision. Once again. In order not to offence one of our beloved forum members: What a karpouzi-republic!! What about peponi republic ? But that will always remind us of Maduro. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Alphonse said: More m*****es... these stadium bans only punish the real fans There *has* to be a better way. It's not like all these years of bans have really achieved anything. Edited February 7, 2020 by Bananas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Jail for people who break the law, perhaps? Happens in civilized countries, at least. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Bananas said: There *has* to be a better way. It's not like all these years of bans have really achieved anything. Exactly, I dunno how arresting the actual perpetrators never happens, they are the ones that should be getting punished but as long as they get away with it, saying you can go to the next 2-3 games, means nothing to them and I think these hooligans enjoy fighting with cops more than the actual football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 13 hours ago, pash said: Jail for people who break the law, perhaps? Happens in civilized countries, at least. Or even a stadium ban, you have to show ID most of the time so the set up is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Kind of leads back into a conversation that has occurred many times on this forum. In other countries, if you do something stupid or dangerous in a stadium, you will be caught quickly. In Greece, it seems this level of security is mythological. The best they can do is string up nets, throw up their hands, and pray (if they even care that much). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Alphonse said: Or even a stadium ban, you have to show ID most of the time so the set up is there It’s been mentioned how many times. Seat allocations along with ID would solve this problem fairly quickly. You know, like how you go to a concert and have to sit at your allocated seat. It’s 2020 but when it comes to Greece it’s 1980. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @Bananas I always wonder, do they not have these discussions in Greece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Bananas said: It’s been mentioned how many times. Seat allocations along with ID would solve this problem fairly quickly. You know, like how you go to a concert and have to sit at your allocated seat. It’s 2020 but when it comes to Greece it’s 1980. I will be very honest here and say that seat allocation is a load of bull anyway. I have been to games where there were loads of empty seats around me yet some people insisted on sitting in the seats that I had just randomly sat on. If anything certain parts of stadiums should be standing. Gate 4, for example, should be all standing. The problem is educational. People in Greece are not able to go to a football match with both sets of fans without any trouble. I am not saying to become like the UK or (God forbid) the US (although I was fairly impressed with LAFC's fans), where the atmosphere is quite boring. At least be like Germany where the atmosphere in the stadium is great. Even there fans fight each other but just not in the stadium. If you really need to fight somebody else just because they support another team then find somewhere like a warehouse or the woods, arrange a time, and let all of your psychological issues out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I don't know what the answer is Athens4. But doing nothing is not the answer either. I'm sure there are options out there. If I wait for Greeks to be educated in this sphere of life, I guess I'll be waiting for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 There is seat allocation. At least in Toumba there is. The thing is that nobody follows it and I am sure with Greek mentality shouting matches and even fights ensued as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Blackhawk said: There is seat allocation. At least in Toumba there is. The thing is that nobody follows it and I am sure with Greek mentality shouting matches and even fights ensued as a result. This is why gate 4 should be standing as everybody stands anyway. Only in gates 1,2,3,5 and 6 should there be a case for seating. I will leave the case open for 7 and 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilaul Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Athens4 said: This is why gate 4 should be standing as everybody stands anyway. Only in gates 1,2,3,5 and 6 should there be a case for seating. I will leave the case open for 7 and 8. It can be standing if only the Local laws allow it, because for European and international matches there must be seats installed. Which means you essentially get a stand with folded seats and barriers at every row. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Nilaul said: It can be standing if only the Local laws allow it, because for European and international matches there must be seats installed. Which means you essentially get a stand with folded seats and barriers at every row. This is incorrect. There are many stadiums in Europe that have standing only in certain parts. The Commerzbank Arena (Eintracht Frankfurt and the Signal Iduna Park (Borussia Dortmund) are just a few examples and these teams play in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilaul Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, Athens4 said: This is incorrect. There are many stadiums in Europe that have standing only in certain parts. The Commerzbank Arena (Eintracht Frankfurt and the Signal Iduna Park (Borussia Dortmund) are just a few examples and these teams play in Europe. They actually have safe standing areas and any areas without seats, they have to install seats for European/international games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) We aren't the only country going with foreign refs, seems Benfica is having a bit of a Greek moment. https://www.sport24.gr/football/Portugal/h-mpenfika-zhthse-ksenoys-diaithtes-sto-prwtathlhma.5680440.html Edited February 10, 2020 by paokarag4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Lamia up 0-1 in Karaiskaki....Oly needs two to advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) They just scored, now 1-1. 30 to go... -edit- Lamia down to 10 men -edit again- well there's game, 3-1 Edited February 12, 2020 by pash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Apparently the fat owner who has a ban not to be involved with Greek soccer visited the referees during halftime. The result was a red card to Lamia player out of nowhere and a concerted effort to give Olympiakos players many set pieces in order to achieve a qualification to semifinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiankos Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Αυτά είναι! Διδάσκει ήθος! Ζήτω ο Βαγγέλας μας! Τουλάχιστον 6 εκατομμύρια Ολυμπιακοί και το 70% της Θεσσαλονίκης γιορτάζουν την πρόκριση του Θρύλου στα ημιτελικά του Κυπέλλου! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Not allowing owners and other club officials anywhere near referees should be rule number 1 of any "reforms". I'm holding my breath in 3 ..2 .. 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Manchester City banned from CL competition for two years for inflating the value of sponsorship deals (how else would they afford their transfer policy, after all?). Obviously they're appealing to CAS, and since they're a big name they'll get their day in court I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 7:19 AM, Blackhawk said: Apparently the fat owner who has a ban not to be involved with Greek soccer visited the referees during halftime. Where did you hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Alphonse said: Where did you hear this? I saw it here: https://www.metrosport.gr/sta-apodytiria-ton-diaititon-sto-olympiakos-lamia-o-marinakis-226008 True? False? Don't know these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiankos Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Εντάξει ρε παιδιά, μπήκε ο άνθρωπος να διδάξει λίγο ήθος. Να τους κεράσει κανένα γλυκό, να τους ρωτήσει αν αισθάνονται άνετα, αν χρειάζονται κάτι. Όλα καλά. Κανονικότητα. Ζήτω η Νέα Δημοκρατία, ο Πειραιάς και η Παπαναστασίου! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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