J1078 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Dean97 said: Apparently now they are saying Sokratis is still hopeful to play in the first 2 matches as he got treatment on his ankle. This is good news as it a good chance we can beat or draw Bosnia. If that's the case I still wouldn't paly him in the first game as I don't want to take a chance that he reaggravates his injury. I would save him for the Bosnia game. If our guys cant beat Lichtenstein without Socratis then we have bigger problems then we thought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 4:49 PM, J1078 said: I don't really care if Mantalos is injured but isn't it funny how before every qualifier or tournament our players seem to drop like flies??? This is starting to become comical.. Never fails So true. So frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Jimmyp said: Then don’t play. Simple. Put someone else in with a better attitude. I see this all over. Guys giving up because things don’t go their way. Sucking out cuz they’re not doing well. Oh well. Life’s not fair. Deal with it. No one blamed him when lukaku destroyed him in that thing goal. Look in the mirror. He's just being honest. I understanding that those aren't comments you want to be hearing from your captain, but he does care. He's frustrated with the state of the NT and wants success. Also I don't put too much blame on him for that goal. What was he to do with a beast like Lukaku in the box without fouling him? It was a perfect placement from the big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 3:45 PM, georgelaz said: I think he's letting the Arsenal thing get to his head. If he was on a team like Dortmund I don't think he would retire like that. That's stuff that English, French, etc. players do. Under dog teams like us the players play till they retire ie Karagounis taking us to knockouts beating Russia when he was 35. Sokratis is very frustrated with the NT. The fans not showing support. The greek players with loser mentalities. It's just not fun for him anymore and he feels like he's putting water in a hole with a bucket. I hope he changes his mind but at the same time him publically saying that also is a bad attitude. Much like Messi doing that with Argentina. whereas Ronaldo never has thought of stepping down from Portugal. Ronaldo is always wanting to play for it all and takes responsibility. That's why for me I like Ronald much more then Messi.Ronaldo lifts everyone around him. Whereas Messi is passive aggressive and trys to get player he doesn't like away from the NT. I agree that Ronaldo is the ultimate. Karagounis as well, was with the NT until 37. I see Sokratis much closer to Ronaldo than to Messi in terms of attitude though. Ronaldo always had a team around him. A team like he was used to at ManU and Real Madrid, no, and that must have been frustrating in its own right. Nevertheless, the frustration Sokratis is feeling with the stagnating/declining Greek NT, infected with politics and ego, has surely taken a toll. I think Sokratis is more irritated with EPO and the coaches they hire and money they invest, more than anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is anyone else a little nervous about this first game that every seems to be overlooking? We’ve seen this team with its worst efforts against these type of teams.. if we are tied after 45 I will be shitting my pants.. An early goal is key, the longer it stays scoreless into the match this where we start to panic and make stupid mistakes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 most likely we'll finish between 2nd and 4th. To a lesser extent 1st and 5th also possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, J1078 said: Is anyone else a little nervous about this first game that every seems to be overlooking? We’ve seen this team with its worst efforts against these type of teams.. if we are tied after 45 I will be shitting my pants.. An early goal is key, the longer it stays scoreless into the match this where we start to panic and make stupid mistakes.. I am a bit nervous, but this will be brought up pre-game in the dressing room and I think our players will be ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, georgelaz said: most likely we'll finish between 2nd and 4th. To a lesser extent 1st and 5th also possible. So you have covered all positions but 6th.. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 hours ago, J1078 said: If that's the case I still wouldn't paly him in the first game as I don't want to take a chance that he reaggravates his injury. I would save him for the Bosnia game. If our guys cant beat Lichtenstein without Socratis then we have bigger problems then we thought. 100%! Looks like first team line up with Lichtenstein... but until game time we won’t really know, I’d like some key players rested for Bosnia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don’t if we should rest all our key players for the Lichtenstein game. We don’t well lately against minnows. Look at what happened against Saudi Arabia in a friendly. I know it was a friendly but still it goes to show you that our 2nd or 3rd team are not good enough to beat the smaller teams. If Sokratis dosent play the first game then we might have an issue. I’d like to see Siopis and Valerianos play to see what they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 without both manolas and sokratis I don't see us beating bosnia. dzeko is prolific at both club and international level and he's due a goal against us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Dont worry George if Sokratis is there he will do nothing against us! Just watched highlights of Greece Euro win vs Portugal and game vs Croatia in Euro 2012 qualifiers were Greece destroyed them in Athens, time to KO Bosnia!! Pa Me Ellada!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 So Gracenote released who will Qualify for this tournament. They crunched numbers, stats, players, stadiums etc etc. They have Greece not qualifying. They have the group as this Italy, Bosnia, Finland, Greece, Armenia , Litchenstein. Lol ? Fml. Is this a bad omen already ? Gracenote is a Nielsen company that provides in depth game stats for the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, and Soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 One of the things that's annoying me as a lot of players now seem to put their club ahead of the NT whereas it seemed the opposite during euro 2004 and 2012. eg) if a player has any minor knock now they will miss out on qualifiers. It's not just a Greek thing though, it seems that way with a lot of countries. I think it's because club football is becoming more and more profitable. Whereas in the early 2000s it was somewhat equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Torontoblue said: So Gracenote released who will Qualify for this tournament. They crunched numbers, stats, players, stadiums etc etc. They have Greece not qualifying. They have the group as this Italy, Bosnia, Finland, Greece, Armenia , Litchenstein. Lol ? Fml. Is this a bad omen already ? Gracenote is a Nielsen company that provides in depth game stats for the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, and Soccer. 95% of sites are saying Bosnia and Italy will qualify from this group.. Are we really surprised? Of course they are favoured why wouldn’t they be? They are in a higher fifa ranking, they advanced to the Nations league playoffs meanwhile Greece lost to Estonia.. There is no question we are the underdogs but maybe it’s better that way for us.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Torontoblue said: So Gracenote released who will Qualify for this tournament. They crunched numbers, stats, players, stadiums etc etc. They have Greece not qualifying. They have the group as this Italy, Bosnia, Finland, Greece, Armenia , Litchenstein. Lol ? Fml. Is this a bad omen already ? Gracenote is a Nielsen company that provides in depth game stats for the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, and Soccer. I went to a site ultra.zone and on the first group simulation I did it had Greece winning the group with Italy 2nd and the Bosnians 5th lol.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Cyprus beat San Marino 5-0. I don’t know if Greece can do the same. As I’ve said before Greece need all their players healthy in order to get the best results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dean97 said: Cyprus beat San Marino 5-0. I don’t know if Greece can do the same. As I’ve said before Greece need all their players healthy in order to get the best results. Every team needs their players healthy to get best results. I heard the coach is thinking of resting some key players in the first game in order for them to be fresh for Bosnia. In my opinion this is a big mistake. They don’t have the talent to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yes you are right. We haven’t got the depth. Belgium, Brazil, Spain and Germany have got depth in their teams. There is alway a player to replace that is good enough in their squads. I too believe that resting key players for the first match is wrong. We couldn’t beat Faroes islands with our full enough squad. What’s going to happen now by playing inexperienced players. Siopis is good enough to play but Bakasetas shouldn’t. I read that Anastasiadis is going to either play a 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1. Also the players that are definitely starting in the first match regardless of the formation are Samaris, Vlachodimos, Siovas, Fortounis, Bakasetas, Zeca amd Mitroglou. Yes, Bakasetas is going to start. FFS!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dean97 said: Yes you are right. We haven’t got the depth. Belgium, Brazil, Spain and Germany have got depth in their teams. There is alway a player to replace that is good enough in their squads. I too believe that resting key players for the first match is wrong. We couldn’t beat Faroes islands with our full enough squad. What’s going to happen now by playing inexperienced players. Siopis is good enough to play but Bakasetas shouldn’t. I read that Anastasiadis is going to either play a 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1. Also the players that are definitely starting in the first match regardless of the formation are Samaris, Vlachodimos, Siovas, Fortounis, Bakasetas, Zeca amd Mitroglou. Yes, Bakasetas is going to start. FFS!! If he does this he’s making a big mistake, he needs to start the guys that are going to be playing against Bosnia and use this game to build confidence and chemistry together.. I don’t know what the mindset behind this is.. Why play your most important game with line up that will be rusty or unfamiliar with each other.. Man I hope this is not true.. i also read a similar article that said he may go with something unexpected in the first game.. did he not see what happend against Estonia when he used a messed up line up??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvis1981 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I want to see Greece try to get an early goal instead of staying back and going through the motions for the first 15 minutes. Don't let this team breathe. End it early and take out your key players during the 2nd half. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Jimmyp said: Every team needs their players healthy to get best results. I heard the coach is thinking of resting some key players in the first game in order for them to be fresh for Bosnia. In my opinion this is a big mistake. They don’t have the talent to do that. The coach better field the best eleven and don’t take them lightly. Earlier today Scotland got destroyed by light weights Kazakhstan 3-0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Dean97 said: Yes you are right. We haven’t got the depth. Belgium, Brazil, Spain and Germany have got depth in their teams. There is alway a player to replace that is good enough in their squads. I too believe that resting key players for the first match is wrong. We couldn’t beat Faroes islands with our full enough squad. What’s going to happen now by playing inexperienced players. Siopis is good enough to play but Bakasetas shouldn’t. I read that Anastasiadis is going to either play a 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1. Also the players that are definitely starting in the first match regardless of the formation are Samaris, Vlachodimos, Siovas, Fortounis, Bakasetas, Zeca amd Mitroglou. Yes, Bakasetas is going to start. FFS!! O God I hope he doesn’t play Bakasetas, the guy is not in form with AEK and with the NT he has yet to play a decent game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yet Bakasetas is rumoured to be starting... as is Fortounis which means we will see slow Bakasetas on the wing again. I dunno how he does it, I really don’t ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 He will probably play Bakasetas in the middle with Zeca and Samaris in a 3-5-2. If not then yes he will play on the wing in a 4-2-3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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