Greece country coefficient

[Dutch Eagle]

Yes

See: https://fr.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/02/49/98/51/2499851_DOWNLOAD.pdf

but mostly #11 (this year the Czech Republic) gives also a direct spot as the winner of CL is 99 times out of 100 qualified via the League. See this years acces list: https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/AccessList2018.html

[Bananas]

11th spot is attainable.  Not that we’ll get it, but at least it’s a possibility.  One day if PAO get their crap together we can start looking at Greece doing better in the rankings.

[Dutch Eagle]

After this weeks good week for Greece we have this ranking for #10-#17:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	1.700	30.800	4/ 5
11		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	1.500	26.550	2/ 5
12		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	3.750	25.900	3/ 4
13		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	1.700	25.533	2/ 5
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	2.100	24.600	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	0.900	23.900	3/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	2.250	23.875	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	1.500	23.675	4/ 5

 

[Dutch Eagle]

After the last qualification round these are the new figures:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	1.900	31.000	4/ 5
11		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	3.600	27.433	2/ 5
12		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	1.600	26.650	2/ 5
13		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	3.875	26.025	1/ 4
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	3.100	25.600	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	1.900	24.900	2/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	2.250	23.875	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	1.500	23.675	4/ 5

 

[Soprano76]

12th place after this year is a realistic target IMO

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD 1 of GS 2018/2019:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	2.700	31.800	4/ 5
11		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	4.000	27.833	2/ 5
12		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	2.400	27.450	2/ 5
13		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.125	26.275	1/ 4
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	3.300	25.800	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	2.300	25.300	2/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	2.750	24.375	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	2.100	24.275	3/ 5

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD 2 of GS 2018/2019:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	3.100	32.200	4/ 5
11		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	4.200	28.033	2/ 5
12		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	2.800	27.850	2/ 5
13		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.625	26.775	1/ 4
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	3.700	26.200	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	2.700	25.700	2/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	3.250	24.875	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	2.300	24.475	3/ 5

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD of GS 2018/2019:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	3.500	32.600	4/ 5
11		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	4.800	28.633	2/ 5
12		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	3.200	28.250	2/ 5
13		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.625	26.775	1/ 4
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	4.100	26.600	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.300	26.300	2/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	3.750	25.375	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	2.900	25.075	3/ 5

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD 4 of the 2018/2019-season we have:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	4.100	33.200	4/ 5
11		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	3.800	28.850	2/ 5
12		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	5.000	28.833	2/ 5
13		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	27.025	1/ 4
14		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	4.500	27.000	3/ 5
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.300	26.300	2/ 5
16		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	4.250	25.875	1/ 4
17		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	3.100	25.275	3/ 5

[Dutch Eagle]

After the final games in GS:

10		Turkey	6.000	6.600	9.700	6.800	4.900	34.000	2/ 5
11		Netherlands	6.083	5.750	9.100	2.900	6.800	30.633	1/ 5
12		Austria	4.125	3.800	7.375	9.750	5.400	30.450	2/ 5
13		Greece	6.200	5.400	5.800	5.100	4.900	27.400	1/ 5
14		Denmark	2.900	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	27.025	4
15		Switzerland	6.900	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	26.900	1/ 5
16		Czech Republic	3.875	7.300	5.500	5.500	4.700	26.875	2/ 5
17		Croatia	6.875	4.500	5.125	5.125	4.750	26.375	1/ 4

[Dutch Eagle]

Some countries in our neighbourhood already lost a team. Biggest surprise of all was Hajduk Split being eliminated in 90’ at home by a Maltese team after winning 0-2 away.

This is the standing after Q1:

11		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	0.800	27.925	5/ 5
12		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	0.000	26.350	5/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	0.000	24.800	5/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	0.250	24.375	4/ 4
15		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	1.000	22.625	4/ 4
16		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	0.000	21.400	5/ 5
17		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	0.250	20.750	3/ 4
18		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	1.000	20.500	3/ 4
19		Switzerland	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	0.000	20.000	5/ 5
20		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	1.750	19.875	3/ 4
21		Norway	7.250	1.375	4.000	5.375	1.500	19.500	3/ 4
22		Sweden	4.750	2.750	5.375	4.125	1.250	18.250	4/ 4

 

 

[Dutch Eagle]

After Q2 of 2019/2020 we have:

10		Turkey	6.600	9.700	6.800	5.500	1.100	29.700	5/ 5
11		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	1.000	28.125	4/ 5
12		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	0.600	26.950	4/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	0.500	25.300	4/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	1.125	25.250	3/ 4
15		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	2.375	24.000	3/ 4
16		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	1.000	22.400	5/ 5
17		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	1.000	21.500	2/ 4
18		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	1.875	21.375	2/ 4
19		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	3.000	21.125	3/ 4
20		Switzerland	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	0.600	20.600	5/ 5

[Dutch Eagle]

Austria, The Netherlands, Czech Republic, Denmark, Cyprus and Scotland already lost a participant. Croatia and Serbia two participants. There will be more blood shedded in Q3 as some clubs from the countries close to us have to face each other, like:

Austria Wien - Apollon Limassol;

Rijeka - Aberdeen;

Partizan - Yeni Malatyaspor;

Mityulland - Rangers;

Sparta Prague - Trabzonspor.

And some clubs have opponents like Braga, Spartak Moscow or Espanyol.

[Soprano76]

Oh man. APOEL got so lucky with their draw in UCL qualifying. I usually root for Cypriot clubs, but just this once they need to not do well. 

[Dutch Eagle]

After this weeks Q3 we have:

10		Turkey	6.600	9.700	6.800	5.500	1.600	30.200	4/ 5
11		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	1.400	28.525	3/ 5
12		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	1.800	28.150	4/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	0.900	25.700	1/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	1.375	25.500	1/ 4
15		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	3.250	24.875	2/ 4
16		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	2.100	23.500	3/ 5
17		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	1.875	22.375	2/ 4
18		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	2.375	21.875	2/ 4
19		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	3.625	21.750	2/ 4
20		Norway	7.250	1.375	4.000	5.375	3.250	21.250	2/ 4

[Dutch Eagle]

Ok. These 11 countries already lost 23 of the 49 participating clubs. And at least 3 more to follow as there are the following ties in play-offs EL: 

PSV - Apollon

AEK - Trabzonspor

Partizan - Molde

And then there might be other upsets involving clubs of one of these 11 countries.

For sure are in GS CL or EL till Christmas:

3 clubs: Turkey, Austria

2 clubs:

1 club: The Netherlands, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Greece, Croatia, Serbia, Norway

0 clubs: Denmark, Scotland.

Worthwile mentioning is that Switzerland just dropped to #21 but they are with three clubs in GS. 

[Soprano76]

Can see us overtaking Cyprus, Czechs and Danes if Oly gets past Krasnodar. 

Cyprus: APOEL will most likely lose to Ajax and drop to Europa League. Apollon will also be unlikely to beat PSV and thus be knocked out of Europe altogether. 

[Dutch Eagle]

The qualifying is over. This is how it stands:

9		Ukraine	9.800	5.500	8.000	5.600	1.800	30.700	3/ 5
10		Turkey	6.600	9.700	6.800	5.500	1.800	30.400	4/ 5
11		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	4.000	30.350	4/ 5
12		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	1.400	28.525	3/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	2.100	26.900	1/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	1.625	25.750	1/ 4
15		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	3.700	25.100	1/ 5
16		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	3.375	25.000	1/ 4
17		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	3.375	23.875	1/ 4
18		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	4.000	23.500	2/ 4
19		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	4.500	22.625	2/ 4
20		Norway	7.250	1.375	4.000	5.375	3.500	21.500	1/ 4
21		Switzerland	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	0.800	20.800	3/ 5

 

Greece is living on the edge. A drop to #16 at the end is possible as APOEL might have easier opponents than Olympiakos. And there are more contenders. We’ll see.

I added Ukraine as they are in reach of Turkey and The Netherlands now.

[Soprano76]

Really need Oly to show up this CL season

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD 1of GS CL and EL 2019/2020:

7		Portugal	10.500	8.083	9.666	10.900	3.700	42.849	5/ 5
8		Belgium	7.400	12.500	2.600	7.800	4.400	34.700	4/ 5
9		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	5.000	31.350	4/ 5
10		Ukraine	9.800	5.500	8.000	5.600	2.200	31.100	3/ 5
11		Turkey	6.600	9.700	6.800	5.500	2.000	30.600	4/ 5
12		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	2.600	29.725	3/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	2.300	27.100	1/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	2.125	26.250	1/ 4
15		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	3.900	25.300	1/ 5
16		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	3.375	25.000	1/ 4
17		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	3.875	24.375	1/ 4
18		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	4.250	23.750	2/ 4
19		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	5.250	23.375	2/ 4
20		Norway	7.250	1.375	4.000	5.375	3.500	21.500	1/ 4
21		Switzerland	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	1.200	21.200	3/ 5

 

The eight spot of Belgium is “close”. Portugal (#7) is far far away for the countries from #9 to #21.

[Dutch Eagle]

The name of the third European Cup is reveiled: Europa Conference League. 32 clubs will participate. Just like in the Champions League (stays 32) and Europa League (was 48). This new clubtournament will start in the 2021/2022-season.

[Antaeus7]

So, UEFA decided to bring the UEFA Cup-Winners Cup back from the dead? ??

[Dutch Eagle]

A kind of. There is no separate cup for cupwinners but they just made a third tier to give 16 teams of the minnows in Europe a chance to play European football till Christmas. One could call it a carrot.

[Dutch Eagle]

The access list is like this (with the old name EL 2). Don’t know if it is provisional. UEFA could change it: 

https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/General/02/58/61/42/2586142_DOWNLOAD.pdf

[Dutch Eagle]

After MD 2 of this season:

9		Netherlands	5.750	9.100	2.900	8.600	6.400	32.750	4/ 5
10		Ukraine	9.800	5.500	8.000	5.600	3.000	31.900	3/ 5
11		Turkey	6.600	9.700	6.800	5.500	2.400	31.000	4/ 5
12		Austria	3.800	7.375	9.750	6.200	2.800	29.925	3/ 5
13		Czech Republic	7.300	5.500	5.500	6.500	2.300	27.100	1/ 5
14		Denmark	5.500	8.500	5.250	4.875	2.375	26.500	1/ 4
15		Greece	5.400	5.800	5.100	5.100	3.900	25.300	1/ 5
16		Cyprus	3.000	5.500	7.000	6.125	3.375	25.000	1/ 4
17		Serbia	4.250	2.875	6.375	6.000	5.250	24.750	2/ 4
18		Croatia	4.500	5.125	5.125	5.750	3.875	24.375	1/ 4
19		Scotland	3.000	4.375	4.000	6.750	5.750	23.875	2/ 4
20		Switzerland	5.300	4.300	6.500	3.900	2.000	22.000	3/ 5
21		Norway	7.250	1.375	4.000	5.375	3.500	21.500	1/ 4

Serbia is threatening Greece’s #15. Positions 8 and 7 are way out of our reach and thus not mentioned.