pash Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 lol nevermind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 The Lamia - Aris game was the betting man's special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Exactly. Somewhere in Malaysia right now I am quite sure you will find a betting slip with worth thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Kougias resigned his position at Olympiakos and now is now joining PAS Korinthos (which I don't think I've ever even heard of). Some people just live the most eventful lives, I guess. In most countries, you'd expect professionals to move from club to club. In Greece, the connections seem a lot more "personal," which makes me immediately think something sketchy is going on (just like I thought the Olympiakos move was very sketchy, in light of him owning their competitor!!!!)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Pretty sure he owns the team in Corinth. Or his son does. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 I think he has a some share in the club. BTW Korinthos played in 1st division back between 1979-1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Congratz, @Blackhawk! Your team in Czechia, Banik Ostrava, has qualified for Conference League Q2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 Yes indeed. They destroyed Slovacko 6:0 in the final game of the season. One of my dreams is to see PAOK and Banik play each other in European competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 But who will you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 PAOK of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Firstly, congratulations to Olympiacos (ducks head while the crowd throws food at me) on winning the UEFA Conference League. A historic achievement for Olympiacos and for Greek football. What are the implications for the number teams in Europe next season? Does this mean O Aris gets a spot? Wouldn't that be funny ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 That is a great question. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it helps, apart from giving Olympiakos an advantageous entry into the EL. Right now, it looks like: PAOK - 2nd Qualifying Round for Champions League Olympiakos - direct qualification to League Phase for Europa League (for winning the Conference League) Panathinaikos - 2nd Qualifying Round for Europa League AEK - 2nd Qualifying Round for Conference League Had Olympiakos not won, they would have been in the Conference League, in the same qualifying round AEK is in. Instead, Greece's berth for that position is vacated. My guess is that Panathinaikos will fail to make it to the EL (there are some very good teams in there, and they are characteristically unseeded). If we screw up, we might join them in the Conference League. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, Bananas said: Firstly, congratulations to Olympiacos (ducks head while the crowd throws food at me) on winning the UEFA Conference League. A historic achievement for Olympiacos and for Greek football. What are the implications for the number teams in Europe next season? Does this mean O Aris gets a spot? Wouldn't that be funny ... As pash said, it doesn't help or alter anything for the coming seasons (24-25) European places, they are set. But their win means Greece moves to 15th place in the rankings and for the European season 25-26 we will have 5 teams in Europe. Top 2 will play Champions League qualifiers, 3rd and 4th Conference League qualifying and the cup winner will play in the Europa League qualifiers. Now this also happened in 2022 when we made the Conference League quarters, Greece ended up ranked 15th and with 2 teams in Champions League qualifying earlier this season (AEK and PAO) but we obviously slid back down the rankings and that's why next season there is only one team in the Champions League. Thankfully that's us. So hopefully Greek teams (not just us and Olympicos) can go on with this and have runs in Europe and continue to push the nation up the rankings and we can hold onto the 2 UCL spots as well as gain ground in the qualifying rounds and maybe even add an extra European ticket. Because when you look at the country coefficient, on paper there is really no reason we couldn't be ranked around 10th. Currently Norway, Austria, Switzerland, Scotland and the Czech Republic leagues rank ahead of ours. With the big 4 teams in the shape they are currently in, there is no reason we can't push past these countries in the next few years and end up with much better European tickets than we currently have. https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/?year=2024 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Great context for subsequent seasons. I just have so little hope that the other teams will contribute hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaokCT Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I feel like there are new alliances in Greek football which is crazy. Paok & Olympiakos AEK & Panathinaikos Aris & No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 How so? Because Olympiakos dared to beat AEK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 hours ago, pash said: My guess is that Panathinaikos will fail to make it to the EL (there are some very good teams in there, and they are characteristically unseeded). If we screw up, we might join them in the Conference League. They've done so poorly in Europe in the last decade that they're always in the weaker group. I noticed there is a chance they could play with Ajax - nasty. That's how it goes - they're going to have to fight for the next 3, 4 or 5 seasons unfortunately to bring up the rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I don't think PAO is with AEK. At least I haven't gotten that impression. There is definitely animosity between Olympiacos and AEK but I am not sure what's triggered it. When you have Kougias saying he hopes PAOK wins the title because we at least are a "kathari omada" you know you really are in wonderland. Essentially Kougias is saying the AEK has an alliance with Aris and Lamia but I don't buy it. Well Lamia maybe but if there was an alliance with Aris then why did Aris make it 3-3 in the final minutes of their game recently? Just doesn't add up. https://www.newsit.gr/athlitika/aleksis-kougias-as-parei-to-protathlima-mia-kathari-omada-opos-o-paok-kai-oxi-i-aek-pou-paizei-filika/4081289/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Kougias is one of the funniest people in sports. Blackhawk has some saying about him, I think? That he's a clown or something? Accurate, whatever it was. I truly cannot pin down what he (Kougias) actually believes. I will say, though, that there's absolutely no reason why Olympiakos, AEK, and Panathinaikos should like each other. They should be at each other's throats, just as we are with Aris. And whatever shady team takes up the Iraklis mantle, one day. This is only natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 Kougias is an ambulance chaser and he will suck up to anybody that will pay him. That's why he jumps from team to team. Him and Beos are the biggest clowns in Greek football. There are definitively alliances in Greek football, but they change constantly depending on the circumstances. In 2017 we cooperated with AEK in order to take away the control of EPO from Olympiakos. It appears now PAOK and AEK will not cooperate in the upcoming EPO president elections, where we are pushing our VP Gagatsis to run in the elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Interesting, Asteras is putting together a B team: https://inpaok.com/825187/sta-skaria-o-asteras-tripolis-v/ I kind of question why a team that's strapped for resources would want to go through this time and expense. Maybe some long-term plan to go all-in on developing youth? If that works, could help fund their operations, long-term... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I was looking at Nuremberg's lineup, in light of the Tzimas move. I don't think I've ever seen a situation more set up for Tzimas to get a lot of minutes. They ended the season with four (!) strikers. Of those four, two are about to become free agents, while one was on loan from Sint-Truidense. Every one of those three made seventeen appearances, and none of them scored more than four goals in the entire season (all competitions). The remaining player, Julian Kania, was promoted from their B team on 29 September, and only played four games for them in the ~8 months since. No goals. That club clearly had a problem with their CFs last season, which might explain why they ended up with four players. I would expect them to still add a third, but unless that guy is a total stud I can't see Tzimas not clinching the starting role... Link so you can see for yourselves: https://www.transfermarkt.com/1-fc-nurnberg/startseite/verein/4 - also, it's notable that the respectable "market value" of the club is 1/3 tied to their Turko-Germanic attacking midfielder, who scored a very respectable 19 goals in 32 appearances (16/30 in the league). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 One season in Germany will do Tzimas a lot of good. Example Konstantelias after he was loaned to Eupen. Came back with much improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 The mighty Aris apparently has received a VERY severe penalty for their antics in the cup final; since the team didn't accept their medals they are all banned for the first two games. The danger for us, of course, is if they field their K19 lineup for those games and suddenly discover they're all budding superstars 😞 😞 😞 I think the EPO should fine PAOK just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 I am 99.9% sure that this punishment will be erased on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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