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And, then this magic box.. fixes everything needs fixing.  So the con-artist in chief, tells the cult members that he, only him, has the magic box. You have a problem with immigration, I will fix

Let Trump do his thing. He knows business better than anyone else. He has done more in 4 days than that bozo in 8 years

I said, As to the dance around the issues, some people are conservative first. The rest is finding ways to attack their opponents. If you are a conservative, you are religious; you have archaic ideas

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U.S. manufacturing job openings at 2007 levels

President-elect Donald Trump wants to "bring the jobs back."
But there already are many job openings right here in America, even in manufacturing. The bigger challenge is filling them.

In October, there were 322,000 job openings in manufacturing -- about the same level as in 2007. It has tripled since hitting a low of 99,000 during the recession in 2009.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/21/news/economy/job-openings-manufacturing-trump/index.html

What do you want to bet that Trump will try and take credit for this as well?

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Oh, com'on guys..... As I indicated in my post, "truthiness" [look closely]....

if I want to believe something as true, then it is true! And, by the way, can YOU, or anyone, prove to me he didn't say it?..  No, you can't!

I'm expecting to get support by the usual crowd here who have used this kind of "logic" to prove their points.....   Hey, guys, if you play by such rules, why can't I?   

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4 hours ago, JimAdams said:

U.S. manufacturing job openings at 2007 levels

President-elect Donald Trump wants to "bring the jobs back."
But there already are many job openings right here in America, even in manufacturing. The bigger challenge is filling them.

In October, there were 322,000 job openings in manufacturing -- about the same level as in 2007. It has tripled since hitting a low of 99,000 during the recession in 2009.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/21/news/economy/job-openings-manufacturing-trump/index.html

What do you want to bet that Trump will try and take credit for this as well?

Oh, those must be librul lies! We know CNN as part of the "most dishonest" news media cabal.    [I'm being sarcastic. I wish more people looked up Snopes, especially those idiots who perpetuate conspiracy theories]

OK, I understand when V. Putin is liked by 37% of the Republicans [traitors?], because, after all, those cons love big brother (or spanking father) figures who are authoritarian.

But, 52% of Repubs believe Trump won the popular vote!   [he lost to HRC by 2.8 million votes]  Trump himself, who now loves the Electoral College, keeps saying he won the election by a landslide!  [the EC vote margin: 46th out of 58 elections]. 

Reality is warped in Drumpf's world and con universe.

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It is truly scary how many elected officials are willing to hurt the country in the name of partisanship. If Obama cured cancer and brought world peace they would still find a way to spin it as a negative.

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6 hours ago, 1789 said:

So an America First policy hurts the country?  If Trump cured cancer and brought world peace, would they still find a way to spin it negatively?

 

I'm not sure where you pulled out that out from, what I was trying to say was that the republicans fought obama on anything and everything, just off of partisanship, to not allow him to get anything done. That hurts the country.

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7 hours ago, JimAdams said:

Not to leave out Trump's kind hearted family. Here's a shot with his two kids, Donald Jr. and Eric.

Donald-Trump-Jr.-and-Eric-Trump-leopard-

Killing for fun! How disgusting of a creature is one to kill a living being for the fun of it?

If shooting and killing a beautiful animal like that gets your rocks off, there's something inherently and fundamentally wrong with you.  Horrible picture @JimAdams but definitely very illustrative.

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Oh, stop it.... How about those missing emails? And the Clinton Foundation???  Did I forget Benghazi?? Or, the pizzagate (trafficking underage for sex)....

What's wrong with those Drumpfs asking for big $$$$ from people who have lots of money and want to go hunting with the Trumpies, or giving the donors a chance to meet their daddy?  It's not the same as pay-for-play Hillary was doing! She tried to hide it (and she did a great job since we can't find that connection) whereas the Trumpies are doing in the open!

Same with appointing the head of Exxon-Mobil to be Secy of State!  The conflict of interest is right there in the open!  You libruls...

 

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But he might be drunk one night at 4 in the morning and send out a tweet that pisses off somebody enough to do some crazy sh***, that is the rationale for the JOKE, the man is offensive and not apologetic about it, it is one thing in business or reality tv, international relations and the position he holds is not the same, in any case the tweet was a joke.

 

What was your question?

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19 minutes ago, 1789 said:

Obamacare, his prized piece of legislation, was a bill designed to destroy the private health insurance industry and for the government to then step in and solve the crisis by taking over the industry, i.e., socializing healthcare. Republicans huffed and puffed, but Obama still got his way. The problem for Obama was that he wasted most of his political capital in doing so and therefore had less political weight in achieving other aims.

I don't understand what Americans have against a medical safety net.  It's known that expenditure is approximately triple in the U.S. compared to other OECD nations.  Now, I'm not saying Obamacare is the right way to go (I don't really know much about it) but the gouging and rorting done by the private healthcare companies in the U.S. is almost criminal.  At least, in a moral sense.

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Regarding Trump's tough guy, not gonna take any s**t approach, I dare say as offensive and irresponsible as some may find it, with certain leaders and nations around the world, it could actually be more effective.  I say could, because it hasn't really been tried before, but the softly softly approach hasn't exactly yielded stellar results either.  Let the experiment begin!

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3 minutes ago, 1789 said:

Teddy Roosevelt doing what men have done since the dawn of man: hunt. One of my most cherished past times. The squeamish here would do well to sleep with a teddy bear tonight.

George Orwell also killed an elephant once. He wrote about it in fact.

Cool references, personally killing purely for sport is kind of revolting. If you can use as much of the animal as possible for some purpose afterwards besides hanging its stuffed head on a wall that ain't so bad.

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8 minutes ago, 1789 said:

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Teddy Roosevelt doing what men have done since the dawn of man: hunt. One of my most cherished past times. The squeamish here would do well to sleep with a teddy bear tonight.

George Orwell also killed an elephant once. He wrote about it in fact.

I get what you're saying, but it made sense 5,000 years ago.  As for the argument of "doing what we always have", man has also murdered, raped, plundered, maimed etc. etc.  Doesn't make it cool or right.  Kill something because it will keep you alive ? Cool.  Kill something just coz it felt good.  Not cool.

P.S. Like tantra said, you are one of my favourite posters.  But I can't condone this sort of thing, especially today when so many species are on the brink.

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People who kill endangered species got a special place in the after lifes Ksorkismenos (assuming there is an after life).

 

Dont know why it reads Ksorkis..  meant to type in.ferno but it wont show.

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Yu might be right, but why should that justify the US being among the very few if not the only First world country without basic health care for all citizens? Some things are more important than profit. Even Cuba can manage that.

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1 minute ago, 1789 said:

@Bananas

On healthcare it's a matter of principle. The US leads the world in innovation and wealth creation. Other countries and healthcare systems basically piggyback off of it. The British, Cuban, and Canadian healthcare systems owe almost everything to American development in research and technical progress. And over time healthcare costs will be reduced and therapies/treatments all the better. Just like how in the 80s cell phones looked like bricks and could only be purchased by the Gordon Geico's of the world, but now just about everyone has one these days and they're vastly superior.

Maybe, and I say maybe because I haven't researched the area in detail.  What I do know is that in Australia we have the PBS Scheme (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_Benefits_Scheme) which is basically the government pools all the money and makes deals with big Pharma on what to buy, how many units, and what they are willing to pay.

I can tell you that big Pharma hates this because they are in the unusual position of not having the upper hand in the bargaining.  This was one of the first and most important issues raised in the FTA between Australia and the U.S. but no government here would ever give in on this issue.  Might as well hand in their resignation that day.

It's not like big Pharma aren't making profits in Australia.  It's just not the profits they want.  Having said that, we pay through the nose for other things.

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6 minutes ago, Tzatziki said:

Yu might be right, but why should that justify the US being among the very few if not the only First world country without basic health care for all citizens? Some things are more important than profit. Even Cuba can manage that.

It's a tricky question to model.  You don't give decent health care to Juanito and as a result he develops a condition which means he'll never be able to earn as much as he could've if it was treated cheaply.  So, instead of earning say $50,000 (and the government reaps the rewards in taxing him) he only earns $10,000 and worse, he's actually a drain because he now requires benefits.

The same argument could be made for education as well.  Again, difficult to model and you'll find those that do often already know the result they want (they are already biased by their politics) and "research" and "model" accordingly.

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