cyberfish Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sunday, 26 Oct. @ 4:45 PM GRT (NET) One of the "easy" games of the season. Iraklis has not been very good having won zero games so far and are well on their way to relegation. They have three draws and three losses in six games (2-5 goals). Panathinaikos is 3-1-1 in five games (8-3 goals). It's time Panathinaikos begins building the intimidating reputation that "if you are a weaker team, don't expect to come to our home and open it up, or it can get embarasing". Keep opposing coaches afraid of a large score and we'll have less problems. The way to do this is to consistently beat smaller teams with more goals than three. Up to now, for years we keep winning 1-0, 2-0, and so smaller teams have really nothing to lose by opening up their game and giving us problems. We should make at least 3 or 4 goals and concede none. Goumas, Moon, Tziolis, Christodoulopoulos, Cleyton, are out, along with the injured Sousa, Leontiou. That means Melissis, Ninis, Roukavina, Petropoulos are in. Spyropoulos is OK. It seems as if he will start the same team that played against Bremen (although I suspect Mattos might start for Gilberto). This is the second to last "easy" game before we start the toughest month of the season: Iraklis, Ergotelis, @Panionios, @Bremen, Olympiakos, @Larissa Some interesting stats in five games: Ivanschitz is our first scorer so far with 2 goals. 7 players have scored the 8 total goals! (Goumas, Ivan 2, Karagounis, Salpigidis, Sousa, Rouakvina, Cleyton). We have scored 6 of the 8 goals in the first half We conceded all three goals in the first half We have not scored with a header or a penalty kick yet. Tzorvas has not conceded a goal in two games (all three goals were against Galinovic) Most minutes played: Spyropoulos 450, Salpigidis 396, Simao + Vintra + Sariegi (360), Mattos 342 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenTitus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I think HTC is going to play with one DM, much like he did in the last SL home game. Btw, and this is a disgusting decision, ERT decided to cease the free live streaming of ERT WORLD on line. I suspect they are doing it because they sell the program to digital platforms in Germany, Australia etc. However, they stopped the program even for countries where no such agreement is valid, like the UK. In the era of free live internet TV (even the conservative BBC do that nowadays) ERT seek to prove that they are way behind our times - once again. Not to mention that the quality of the service was not flattering for the Metsoveio Polutexneio people who claim to be one of the few good Unis in Greece. The intentions were good, however. Now, even the intentions are bad. I 'm really curious as to how people who live in the UK are supposed to watch the games given the new situation. I guess they just won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover22 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Anyone know what time this game will be shown in New York? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 ^^^ 10:45 AM Green Titus - I am just amazed, that the ERT World Stream ever worked for you. I have never in years gotten that stream to run.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Im gonna go with 3-0.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDmagic Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 0-0 :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover22 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Thanks. 3-1 watch out for Agritis; this guy is an excellent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAO_OR_DEATH Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikosVazelas Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 4-1 agritis isnt playing btw clover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 The lineup is identical to the one against Bremen. --------------------Tzorvas----------------- Nilsson----Vintra---Sariegi---Spyropoulos -----------Gilberto---Simao---------------- --Gabriel------Salpigidis-----Karagounis ----------------Mantzios-------------------- In reality, when we attack, and for most of the game, Salpigidis plays next to Mantzios as a second CF, or he often slides to the right to play as a winger when Gabriel moves behind the CF. Let's hope it's a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikosVazelas Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 i like everyone in the lineup save sariegui and maybe vyntra in the future.. Against Smaller teams liek iraklis, id like to remove a player like simao and play with someone a little more offensive minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenTitus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I would also like sone like Iv instead of Gilberto or Simao but Iraklis, despite their terrible results, are not really all that bad: at least they don't sit back all the time. And they do have 2-3 really good players. Btw, apparently the crowd is not particularly impressive: less than 20.000 on the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 I am beginning to understand out game. It seems like both our FBs are the extra offensive minded players. We are really playing with 4 defensive-minded players: Vintra-Sariegi-Gilberto-Simao. They create a defenisve "box" that slides mostly left and right while the fullbacks slide up and down the line and support the midfiled and wingers. I think it's a good plan that puts more players forward without compromising midfield superiority. At leas this seems to be the plan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Looking at the first ten minutes it looks like Gilberto plays in front of Simao most of the time. The referee looks very feisty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikosVazelas Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 i like it so far and gabriel looks great offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 1-0 Mantzios :tup: Good pressure and ball movement culminating in a nice Karagounis assist. Beautiful finish by Mantzios to put the ball in the upper corner of the goal. Everything worked well and I liked that there were three green jerseys in the box when Karagounis crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Gabriel shot blocked, Mantzios missed a sitter. 39' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 But, it's a poor score for the game. PAO has been dominating, we should have gotten at least another one. These kind of games can come back and bite you.... as we saw last year when, again, we couldn't put away bad teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 HT 1-0 Not too bad. We show good movement when we drive the ball on the wings and we had a couple of chances to increase the score. Iraklis try to defend in their own half and have not bee successful in getting close to our box. Gabriel is pretty good and so is Karagounis. Gilberto does slow down the flow of the game and since he plays so high, maybe Ivanschitz would have done better at this position. Simao is good as the lone DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve07 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 i want to see ninis,rukavina, and melisis get a shot today. Also ivan should have been starting ahead of Gabriel and Salpi on the left and kara in the midd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikosVazelas Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Excellent first half against a team that has given us tons of problems in recent years.and thats why i mean excellent. There are three things that i think have helped us look good today. 1- Gabriel. He is very dnagerous on the right and his speed and dribbling capabilities are a step up from players like Romero, Dimoutso who have played on the right in recent years. 2- Mantzios and Salpi both playing up front. With the speed coming from our midfield, defenders are always playing with one foot behind them, in case they can try and cut off and that leaves space for players liek Mantzios and salpi to find holes. 3- DMs playing high. Its been 3 games now where our DMs play high. Basically we play with 2 DMs but as against Levadiakos with Ivan playing in the middle, and in TOumba with Mattos playing high, Today, Gilberto is playing closer to the box in the offensive zone and in at least 3 occasions he was even inside the 20 yard box. I think its, important to play with this system, especially in the greek league, twice as importantly at home. It allows you to have five men up front not including the occasional run up by our FB, who, i must say, in the past two games against Werder and Iraklis, have been fantastic. I think if Spyropoulos would of stayed int he game against Werder, it woulod of been completely different cuz he was owning the left side while he was on. Nilsson has also become a fantastic RB defensively and his offensive game has picked up immensely. Id liek to see Ruka in the 2nd half in the place of Salpi and Ivan in for Simao. If we get a second goal, id definately put in Melissis for Vyntra or Sariegui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Ivan in for Gilberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikosVazelas Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 ivan in for gilberto who has a slight injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenTitus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Good sub. Also, I 'd like to see Salpi getting some rest as he 's been playing ceaselessly for 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 1-1 mikey mouse defense Twra trexoume :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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