Dean97 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 He soon won't be. He probably will sign for Panathinaikos. That's if OFI make it to the Superleague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 greek superleague top goal scorerers.. not a single greek snap lol. http://www.superleaguegreece.net/en/stats/topplayers the problem is the best greek strikers get bought out by big clubs and then are left to rot on the bench. eg) giakoumakis at AEK. giakoumakis mystiakidis could be okay bakasetas, lazaros, kone, donis can play cf as well but not their optimal positions. vellios and diamantakos are okay and are realistically are 3rd and 4th best if they were actually in form. we gotta hope to god mitro and karelis can be in form for next campaign. luckily we have a lot of time before competitive play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Hopefully Donis will pan out for us going into the next campaign he is a very promising attacking minded player, something we have not seen in a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 well Laz is also in the for of his life right now... Greek players for some reason peak in their 30s... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Can you imagine Lazaros dribbling towards the defence and Donis making a run through the wing. Talking about creating chances, with Fortounis in the mix we could look dangerous in attack. All we need is for Mitroglou to perform and the midfielders to do their job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I Like Laz but for some reason Skibbe has it in for the guy.. I only see Skibbe using him regularly only if it's his last resort which is a huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanagiotisScordis Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Is it true Mantalos was voted the best Greek player for 2016/17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanagiotisScordis Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Anyone heard of Andrew Eleftheriou he plays for Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 5 hours ago, PanagiotisScordis said: Is it true Mantalos was voted the best Greek player for 2016/17? the best greek player based in the greek league. sokratis won the award regarding the ones abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mendel Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Mitroglou seems to be a constant bench warmer now. He played 1 minute against Monaco. He had remained on the bench on the former four occasions. Should he perhaps return to Benfica? I write this here, because if he gets no game time that will affect our performance as well (he cannot perform or our efficiency fades if he is benched in the NT too). What is worse: an Ethniki with a Mitroglou who doesnt get proper game time or an Ethniki without Mitroglou (and, perhaps, with Karelis/Vellios/Diamantakos)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mendel Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I wanted to add that I like your enthusiasm but Lazaros, Donis, Mantalos and the likes cannot lead us back to the level of the 2004-2014 period. Lazaros couldnt dribble even against Gibraltar. Gianniotas did more in 15 minutes than he in 75 minutes. Donis seems to be nothing special, a talented youth. Mantalos is an average CAM at international level. I guess some of you wont agree but consider this. Lazaros was not much of a threat against Gibraltar (4-0). Donis was arguably more successful as a backup player of Nice than he has been in this season as a starter of Stuttgart. Mantalos plays out of position because Fortounis is better than him as a CAM. Either we pray for the appearance of more young players of a very high quality like Retsos or we try to find an excellent coach again (like Rehhagel and Santos) who has experience and tactical astuteness. Skibbe tries to imitate Rehhagel and wants to copy his blueprint but cannot find the adequate players. Compare his five defenders + 2 defensive midfielders versus Croatia in the first match and the five-men line of Rehhagel versus Ukraine. Clearly he tried to copy Rehhagel's tactics but used the wrong guys/used them in the wrong places, some faults Rehhagel surely wouldnt have committed. And where was the fighting spirit of Ottos team? (In the Ukraine away game we won after a Homeric struggle - think of the injuries of Moras and Pliatsikas, we had only nine wholly healthy players on the pitch at the end yet they persevered!) I thought at first Skibbe is the very thing we needed but now I am not sure of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) @La MendelYou seem to forget that Donis is still young and at 21 he has done more than Fortounis and Mantalos when they were his age. Also thank you for stating that Gianniotas did more in 15 minutes than Lazaros' 75 minutes. But when you say Donis was better as a backup at Nice than he is as a starter at Stuttgart is completely debatable. As I believe he is playing better this season. He hasn't scored the amount of goals needed to be classed as a solid player but his overall play is much better than Fortounis or Mantalos. I agree that we didn't have fighting spirit in the first match against Croatia as I believe that was the main reason why we lost. Skibbe should of not played Stafylidis, Samaris and Karnezis. Skibbe is apparently keeping an eye on Galanopoulos and Limnios. They could be in the roster for the friendly matches. Also said that Kone could make his return in the team. Edited January 31, 2018 by Dean97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 every player has good and bad games though. Lazaros was responsible for all 3 goals against olympiakos which is a better side than gilbratar. We tied estonia. Doesn't mean estonia is at our level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I'd like to note that Nikopolidis the coach of the u21s national team played a friendly a few months ago with b and c choices. Nearly the whole team was different. I'd like to see Skibbe do this with the senior national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) can we call this dude up or is it too late? he's half greek. obvious by his name lol. we really need wingers and he's a really good one. faster than any of our players. Edited February 2, 2018 by georgelaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, georgelaz said: can we call this dude up or is it too late? he's half greek. obvious by his name lol. we really need wingers and he's a really good one. faster than any of our players. The commentator rule will prevent this because if we play Lazaros on one side and Lazaro on the other, the comentators will get confused all the match. At least they are not twins. Edited February 2, 2018 by ausgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I believe Manthatis is a good player. He is playing well for PAS but he hasn't scored. I can't wait to see him as a regular player in our team. I'd rather play Lamprou or Manthatis than Lazaro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) oof ya Manthatis is way faster an is more likely to be called up. Lazaro is highly entrenched in the Austrian world. Mind you He can play both left and right. which lamprou? I haven't seen Manthatis play but Lazaro has Donis like potential. Edited February 2, 2018 by georgelaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I believe he has been caped already by Austria... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 There is a Zeca in the team already. If guys like this and villafanez start playing for Greece, I stop watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Lazaro is half greek. Like Holebas. Not the same as Zeca who's not greek at all and Villafanez who's only 25% Greek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) If a player officially qualifies for Greece, then, he is Greek. remember, Socceroos 36 in the World, Greece 44 or something. Lets address this issue positively, and like them, make the World Cup. Greece should of qualifed for the Euroes. Explore all the talent pool. I heard Messi wanted to play for Greece b4 he took option 2. Edited February 3, 2018 by ausgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Why dont we just call up the majority of the u21s and some from the u19s lol. Talk about a complete overhaul. But seriously we need to play our best possible players that are actually playing. Mitroglou hasn't played much as well as Stafylidis. Even though they are our best players in there position we need to be playing the best players who are next in line who are playing. Eg. Stafylidis for Lykogiannis and Donis for Mitroglou. That's how I'll do it. Unless there is a big margin between our players which in our case there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Giakoumakis with the game winner for AEK vs. Olympiakos 90th minute coming on as a sub for Kone at 72. Also tried to hit a scissor kick on a cross that lead to AEKs first goal. Gunna still be tough for him to get a lot of playing time as AEK is blessed at the striker position with LIvaja and Araujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I heard that the Oly players had food poisoning, they contaminated Calamaria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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