Athens4 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 I would let Koulouris be for the time being. There is no need to bring him back right now. He is just fine where he is. When summer comes we will need him back with Karelis going back to Belgium. Then he will (hopefully) have to fight it out with Akpom for a place in the starting 11 (unless we play with 2 up front). Heard we are close to finalising a deal for Bonatini. Just on loan I hope. 2
Blackhawk Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 Reports are that he will be on loan for the rest of the season, which will cost PAOK 1 mil. There will be a buyout clause, but the figure I read makes no sense (to me anyway). If you wonder why we are pursuing Bonatini, it's because our current TD is the one that brought him to Europe from Brazil.
pash Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Considering what they paid for him, I did expect us to have to pay to take him on loan. Pretty wild how fast fortunes can turn when you get bought after a successful loan spell. Not dissimilar from what happened to Stafylidis.
Bananas Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 You people are all gamblers! Akpom could get injured, then what ? Karelis to me is very average. As for Bonatini, who knows if he’ll be any good.
Bananas Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, Blackhawk said: Reports are that he will be on loan for the rest of the season, which will cost PAOK 1 mil. There will be a buyout clause, but the figure I read makes no sense (to me anyway). If you wonder why we are pursuing Bonatini, it's because our current TD is the one that brought him to Europe from Brazil. First signing from new TD and it already has a bad smell to it.
Blackhawk Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 No. I vaguely remember 2 years ago saying "Prijovic who? How much?" 1
Nea Bafra Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, pash said: Does anyone here ever like any moves we make?! We're Greek so this is a dumb question Pashalitsa
pash Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Bonatini's transfer won't progress until Wolves get a replacement for him, it seems. Fortunately that means Akpom and Karelis have a chance to impress. Warda apparently cancelled a meeting in regards to joining Atromitos because now he wants to talk to PAOK's administration regarding his...future? I'm assuming this is in regards to foreign teams buying him. Personally, I'd say if we get him for 2mm plus 10%, that would be fair enough. Just to get him out of our hair. That's assuming the Turks are still willing to pay knowing that he wants out.
pash Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Bonatini offer by Wolves: 4 million euros for 60% of the player's contract. That's a huge gulf vs what we should pay, and MASSIVELY overvalues the player. Sounds like we're gonna go for that Romanian guy that Lucescu liked a while back.
Blackhawk Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 They also want 1 mil just for the 6 month loan. For that money I would not even be discussing with the Wolves. Apparently PAOK is already looking elsewhere. Today there was a meeting involving George, our new TD, Michel and Goncharova to discuss transfers. They also discussed contract renewals and apparently Biseswar is close to re-signing for 2 more seasons. Crespo is close to signing but his agent demands that PAOK pay him a transfer bonus, which Savfvidis is refusing to pay. Also we are offering to double Varela's salary, but he is demanding a triple raise. Rumors are also that he has a very good offer from England.
pash Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 TRIPLE is pretty intense. And...what's up with the transfer bonus? Like, what even is that? Haha These guys smell blood now that Prijovic is gone. They know there's money flowing. If Varela really has an offer from the UK, it'll be hard to keep him. Is it possible that Kacheridi might come out on top next summer???
Blackhawk Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 I think Khacheridi and his 1.2 mil salary is the cause of the problem. If I was Varela I would demand a lot more as well. Maybe not triple, but for sure more than Khacheridi is making. The Khacheridi transfer should have never happened.
pash Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 What is Varela making now? And yes, the Savvidis family made their bed, now they need to sleep in it. Sounds like they'll be eating fasolia for a while after this winter.
Bananas Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Varela's wage is 860K including tax. So approximately 600K. Agree Hatseridi's wage has set a bad precedent. 2
Bananas Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 You'll find other player wages at the link below. http://www.fmgreece.gr/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=14 Not sure if it's 100% accurate but I believe they are, or at least very close. I did tally them up a while back and our wage bill for the first team was approximately 27.5 million including tax. 1
pash Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 I don't know who is more of an MVP, you or the animal that maintains that forum!
Blackhawk Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 Lets's not forget that the topic title includes the word "rumors". Some of the figures being thrown around could very well be pure bullshit. To throw another one in the mix. I just heard that Glykos is leaving PAOK.
Yiankos Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 If Varela is getting 600-700K per year and asks for triple money, that's 1,8-2,1 millions. It's insane.
SydneyPAOK Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Yes it is insane but if Khacheridi is being paid 1.2m and Varela is a better player and will always start over Khacheridi then why not ask for 1.2m and negotiate from there?
paokarag4 Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 Apparently we are on the cusp of signing Swiderski, a 21 year old Polish striker from Jagiellonia (currently 4th in Poland) Obviously a signing with one eye on the future, he has upside and potential resale value. I guess it means Akpom will be given the chance to cement his spot as our starting striker. Not the worst move in the world, he is young and will hopefully develop into a handy little player. I'm happy for us to back Akpom, Karelis and give Swiderski some mins off the bench. Let's see how it plays out. https://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Paok/paok-pairnei-karol-svinterski.5414763.html
Bananas Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 11 hours ago, pash said: I don't know who is more of an MVP, you or the animal that maintains that forum! There's also this video which isn't too bad. Jump to 11:11 where he discusses the PAOK squad. It's quite good. You can see the player stats in English. You can take the players stats with a grain of salt although FM has always been known for its "more" realistic player attributes. In the past the Greek League stats weren't accurate enough for my liking but I think they're getting better. Of note is the Staff List at 23:59. We have a lot of staff! Although I think some of the info must be wrong. I'm fairly sure Lubos Michel was on more than 43,5000 pa.
Bananas Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, paokarag4 said: Apparently we are on the cusp of signing Swiderski, a 21 year old Polish striker from Jagiellonia (currently 4th in Poland) We already have a young guy that is developing well. His name is Koulouris! Strange. Just seems like a signing for the sake of a signing.
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