Argy Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 hours ago, georgelaz said: pelkas brings speed/hustle that fortounis doesn't. fortounis brings technical skill. mantalos is a similar player to fortounis but when both are in form i'd give the edge to fortounis. it should be pelkas fortounis lazaros up top based on current form. fortounis and laz work well together at oly too. Donis must be integrated into the starting XI. Form goes a long way and is integral, but so does skill and talent, and I believe Donis has more of that than Pelkas and will catch up to Lazaros and Fortounis soon enough. I also think he has more game breaking ability than the above 3. He is playing in a much more competitive league versus and alongside better players and that goes a long way. The tactics, club culture, training facilities, staff, professionalism, game pace of the Bundesliga are not found in Greece. For me, as long as Donis is getting minutes at Stuttgart, he should be one of the first names on the game sheet for Greece, and not wasted on the bench like he was yesterday. Let us see what happens vs Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 @Argy given his injuries of late I’d say he was rested for the tougher match vs Hungary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Alphonse said: @Argy given his injuries of late I’d say he was rested for the tougher match vs Hungary I hope you are right and that is the case. I hate seeing wasted talent on a team where it is already scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Interesting comments all round. When Donis is at his best he is our best attacking player. With in form Fortounis and Donis alongside we can be very dangerous. Pelkas should be in this team no doubt. I believe Pelkas could be better than Fortounis and Mantalos. That's a big statement I know. But I am seeing things in Pelkas that are vital for this team. Did anyone see in the last minute of the 1st half what he did? Estonia had a corner in our box and somehow in a blink of an eye he took the ball from the Estonian and ran the whole field like he was going to score by himself until the defender caught up with him. I like seeing things like that and I believe only he and Donis can do that unexpectedly. I like how Fortounis is playing now. Dropping in and collecting the ball. Making good passes. In that one on one he had I believe he made the safer or better option to shoot but I think he could have played that pass as he knew Pelkas was their. It would have been risky on the angle though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 i want to believe that skibbe had something like that in mind when talked about changes; mparkas mpakakis sokratis manolas lykogiannis zeca kourmpelis lazaros fortounis donis mitroglou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Boxou said: i want to believe that skibbe had something like that in mind when talked about changes; mparkas mpakakis sokratis manolas lykogiannis zeca kourmpelis lazaros fortounis donis mitroglou Was he talking about changes for the Hungary match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not sure how true it is but I heard the Hungary game will be played in an empty stadium due to punishment from a previous incident.. This would be great for us if they don't have their crowd pumping them up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, J1078 said: Not sure how true it is but I heard the Hungary game will be played in an empty stadium due to punishment from a previous incident.. This would be great for us if they don't have their crowd pumping them up.. I think that’s from incidents with a match vs Romania. That would be a bonus for us going into Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I think toro should keep his starting position next game cuz he was a beast out there. sub in bakakis in the 60th as he tires. I think by the end of this season we'll have a new good striker. maybe manos or vergos. shame karelis isn't back as he's our only other striker I'd feel comfortable having up top. Donis is great but as a single striker he doesn't give me as much confidence and much rather have him as a supporting role or winger. I think our NT has a curse where it takes players forever to play at their club level. I recall lotsa strikers struggling to perform till about 20-30 caps. Mitro for sure was one of these and I think salps/samaras/gekas/charisteas were like this as well. Bakasetas can be a decent cf but hasn't found his legs yet for the NT. he also has never given a full game from what I recall in his natural position which I think is more a cam/cf between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tsamados Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 For the first time in a long time I actually feel excited about all the new players coming into the team. Hopefully we keep the momentum going and are hungry to beat Hungary. ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) kourbelis and bakakis are my favourite new ones that will hopefully become part of the 11. last campaign I liked donis and retsos. next we need a new striker and we're pretty solid. not sold on Koulouris and don't think he's our future. Edited September 10, 2018 by georgelaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tsamados Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 What happened to Karelis he came in to the team and scored on his debut but then seemed to go off the boil? Hopefully Donis will step up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chris Tsamados said: What happened to Karelis he came in to the team and scored on his debut but then seemed to go off the boil? Hopefully Donis will step up soon. probably injured. apparently signed to PAOK though now. Prijo is on fire though for them so will be hard to win the starting spot. Would've rather have him back at PAO Karelis does some things even better than Mitro. Volleys, speed, positioning might be better at those. Edited September 10, 2018 by georgelaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Didn't Donis play as a striker against Belgium and have a great game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 23 hours ago, Argy said: I hope you are right and that is the case. I hate seeing wasted talent on a team where it is already scarce. Tell me about it... and we have Skibbe coaching of all people lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Plenty of reasons but there is not that much wrong with his comments above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 His comments aren't anything concerning, he wants Germany to win the Nations League, something Greece can't right now. If they were playing against each other and he said he hoped we would lose, then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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