Blackhawk Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 VS MATCHUP: P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki - Panathinaikos AthensCOMPETITION: Greek Cup – Semifinal – Leg 2DATE: 27-April-2017TIME: 19:00 GR (17:00 GMT, 11:00 CDT, 02:00 AEST next day)CITY/STADIUM: Thessaloniki – Toumba Stadium (Capacity: 28,703)REFEREES: Georgios Kyzas (Drama) - Koula Hasan (Xanthi), Dimitris Gagas (Larisa) - Charalambos kalogeropoulos (Athens), Dimitris Styliaras (Aitolokarnania) TELEVISION: COSMOTE Sport 3 (Greece), Antenna Satellite (USA, Canada), Antenna Pacific (Australia), Laola1.TV (Worldwide) P.A.O.K. - Panathinaikos - Greek Cup history: 2006-2007: QF – Leg 1: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 2:1 (Konstantinidis, Mieciel) - Attendance: 20,0001993-1994: R3 – Leg 2: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 0:0 4:5 pen. - Attendance: ? (ELIMINATED)1990-1991: SF – Leg 2: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 1:0 (Skartados) - Attendance: ? (ELIMINATED)1984-1985: SF – Leg 2: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 4:0 (Siggas, Kostikos, Alexandridis, Karasavidis) - Attendance: 40,000 (QUALIFIED)1981-1982: SF – Leg 2: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 1:0 (Koudas) - Attendance: 38,774 (ELIMINATED)1972-1973: QF: PAOK – Panathinaikos 2:0 (Paridis 2) - Attendance: 45,000 (QUALIFIED)1970-1971: QF: PAOK – Panathinaikos 3:2 (Sarafis, Paridis, own goal) - Attendance: ? (QUALIFIED)1950-1951: SF: PAOK – Panathinaikos 1:0 (Papadakis) - Attendance: ? (QUALIFIED) GAMES: 8WINS: 7TIES: 1LOSSES: 0 Neutral venue Greek Cup games: 2013-2014: FINAL: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 1:4 (Vukic-p) - Attendance: 47,000 (played at OAKA)1976-1977: FINAL: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 1:2 (Terzanidis) - Attendance: 28,490 (played at Karaiskaki Stadium)1971-1972: FINAL: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 2:1 (Koudas 2) - Attendance: 34,831 (played at Karaiskaki Stadium)1954-1955: FINAL: : PAOK – Panathinaikos 0:2 - Attendance: ? (played at Leoforos Alexandras) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, pash said: Blackhawk, if you could compile some stats on how often we do better after a return leg looks insurmountable, I will gladly send you a tsoureki. My aunt gave me four :( I am all tsourekied out thanks to my pethera. She was busy baking all week. We did manage to overturn some insurmountable leads in return legs. One in 1985 comes to mind, and of all teams against Panathinaikos and also in the semifinal of the cup. We lost 2:0 in Athens, and then destroyed them 4:0 in Toumba. Here is the second goal of the game by Kostikos with a scissor kick after which he was 5 minutes unconscious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 BTW if you have nothing else to do, here is a video of the full match (PAOK - Panathinaikos 4:0). The Kostikos goal is around the 28th minute mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiankos Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Thanks Ziaka! This guy puts very interesting videos on youtube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Leto is confirmed to miss this game. Also will miss their match vs Atromitos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Zeca also out for 10 days, will miss this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italosPAOK4 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8a apokleistoume alla ta play off kai to prwta8lhma tou xronou einai dika mas ! to nou sas ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I can't see us qualifying. Well let me rephrase that, I can't see us keeping a clean sheet, so that would require us scoring 4 to go through which i just dont see happening. Berg has been a pain in our ass for years, he will find space as we will be chasing goals combine that with the pace of Klonaridis and Mpokou, I just can't see them not grabbing at least one goal. I hope I'm wrong and I hope we win 3-0 but my money is on a 2-1 win on the night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 I am of the same opinion. We should have scored at least one goal in Athens or at the very least lost only 1:0. I'll be happy if we give it our best effort and whatever comes out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I see a victory in extra time here! Im a believer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Same here ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Aww, now you're just trying to get on my good side! -edit- spelling Edited April 25, 2017 by pash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I really don't know how Ivic will go with this one. As JVC says above, defending will be even more important than before. Could we see a 3-5-2? That would be interesting, maybe pairing Pelkas or Campos with Prijovic. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he starts Klaus over Prijovic, though I hope that's not the case. All players are currently available and training normally, no injury issues beyond Mistakidis. My best guess: --Glykos-- --Matos--Varela--Crespo--Leovac-- --Shakhov--Biseswar--Cimirot-- --Campos--Prijovic--Henrique Though it's tough to tell if he won't prefer Canas or Warda in there over some of the other players (Cimirot and Henrique probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 We'll need a little luck Thursday. Panathinaikos will rely on counters in order to get one goal. With a little luck we need to prevent that from happening. The sooner we can get the 1:0 lead, the better and then push for the 2nd goal that will send the game to extra time/PK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Pash, I'd prefer Warda to Campos.........hell, I'd even take Mystakidis on crutched to Campos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Me too. I also think Canas should get a start as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Canas for Cimirot? Or Sakhov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'd say Shakhov, but he's been playing well lately even scoring goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Yeah....it's a tough call. Cimirot is probably more consistent but Sakhov has been playing well lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 We have a glut in the midfield, any combination of those players I'd be fine with. Warda over Campos isn't a bad idea at all, but I have a feeling Campos' bizarre knack for forcing really surprising mistakes out of his opponents could prove decisive. Generally, if Campos doesn't start out well, he doesn't end well, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see both on the field anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiankos Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Η Τούμπα τις περισσότερες φορές στα σημαντικά παιχνίδια μας πληγώνει. Ιδίως όταν έχουμε τον τίτλο του "φαβορί". Δεν μου αρέσει καθόλου το 2-0 του πρώτου αγώνα, αλλά τουλάχιστον με αυτό τον τρόπο πηγαίνουμε μαζεμένοι και σεμνοί. Αν το πρώτο ματς ήταν 1-1 ή έστω 1-0 τότε θα ακούγαμε διθυράμβους για το πώς θα διαλύσουμε τον Παναθηναϊκό και θα πάρουμε την πρόκριση. Και το πιο πιθανό να χάναμε. Οπότε τώρα που είμαστε μαζεμένοι και σεμνοί το θεωρώ πολύ πιθανό να κάνουμε την έκπληξη! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 On 4/24/2017 at 5:54 PM, paokarag4 said: I can't see us qualifying. Well let me rephrase that, I can't see us keeping a clean sheet, so that would require us scoring 4 to go through which i just dont see happening. Berg has been a pain in our ass for years, he will find space as we will be chasing goals combine that with the pace of Klonaridis and Mpokou, I just can't see them not grabbing at least one goal. I hope I'm wrong and I hope we win 3-0 but my money is on a 2-1 win on the night Statistically I agree. It's likely PAO will score. But the ball is round and anything can happen. A silly deflection, a slight off side that isn't called and all of a sudden it changes the game. The key is to get the first goal and from then it's game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paoknola Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Agreed ,key is an early goal ...hopefully after that they will begin to buckle under pressure.Hoping klaus doesn't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Here are our nineteen players: Γλύκος, Σιαμπάνης, Λέοβατς, Μάτος, Κίτσιου, Κρέσπο , Μαλεζάς, Βαρέλα, Τσίμιροτ, Κάνιας, Σάκχοφ, Μπίσεσβαρ, Πέλκας, Κάμπος, Ουάρντα, Ενρίκε, Ματθαίου, Αθανασιάδης, Πρίγιοβιτς Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Looks like Brkic, Koulouris and Kace were the healthy scratches. Brkic was left off due to EPO requirements, but I believe Kace had a place in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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