georgelaz Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 ^ I wouldn't say amazing soccer but we got results. One thing that Otto did was he dismissed players with bad attitudes. (Zikos & Georgatos?) Santos I don't think did that? Perhaps the bad attitudes that Moras was hinting at are poisoning the team? I love them when they're performing well but COUGH COUGH Mitroglou & Holebas?
GreekLunatic Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 so who ever coaches greece has to have tsanas as assistant xestikame no one will agree with that
Akritis_1944 Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 What's the goal of EPO? To embarrass and humiliate Greek football? They've done that then. There is no logic to what they are doing. I am not sure what to think. We all see that their demands that Tsanas MUST be some foreign coach's assistant are wrong but why are they demanding it?
Bananas Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Clubs complaining about their players not being selected, should be told ... respectfully ... to f--k off. PAOK demanding Tzavellas be in the NT is farcical.
Akritis_1944 Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 The media seems to be pulling names out of a hat for the next coach. Felix Magath Thomas Schaaf Juande Ramos Paulo Bento Luis Fernandez Laszlo Bolloni These are just some of the names I've read.
paoboston Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Greek media are protecting the EPO and Greeks in general are far more concerned about Marinakis than anything the EPO does with the NT. They will concentrate their fury on Xolebas throwing his shirt on the ground. He was the only player genuinely busting a gut out there. I notice Sport24 rated him as poor which didn't surprise me. For me he was our best player tonight.Marinakis and EPO go hand in hand. Girtzikis and Sarris were his guys. 1
Original Sydney Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Well said paoboston Girtzikis is as much a dirty dog as Sarris was, piece of sh*t has no idea and has only been put their by his master like the puppet he really is, m****pano they make me sick.
RED SHERIFF Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I recall (on the other site) several posters a few years ago. Wanting Tsanas as our NT coach....given his good record with u21 and u19...and being Greek
Blackhawk Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Clubs complaining about their players not being selected, should be told ... respectfully ... to f--k off. PAOK demanding Tzavellas be in the NT is farcical. Clubs in my opinion should be demanding that none of their players be selected for the NT until all the EPO scum is cleaned up.
ausgreek Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Gerkin/Tzatzikis=Girtzikis, beef and onion with my yeeros. Edited October 9, 2015 by ausgreek
PanaTO Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Agreed that is the only way to pressure them to make the necessary changes
Nikitas Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 romanian and former paok coach laszlo boloni is the latest name. http://www.novasports.gr/podosfairo/europi/european-championship-qualification/article/242927/senaria-gia-boloni-stin-ethniki/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_B%C3%B6l%C3%B6ni
paokarag4 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 very good coach, focused on the youth and was responsible for one of our biggest wins in our history (1-2 away to Spurs) Left a good impression on the fans, most of whom were sad to see him go
Akritis_1944 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Michael Skibbe is a 50 yo German. Could be better than some of the names mentioned. What's he likes at motivating primmadonnas though?
GreekLunatic Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 The easiest group on paper and we stuffed it up and poor next coach gets mappa tsanas as assistabt
GreekLunatic Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 The easiest group on paper and we stuffed it up and poor next coach gets mappa tsanas as assistant
RED SHERIFF Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Who ever takes over, they will have a huge task in front of them! When we go back to the Otto days and Santos, both coaches had players performing at a very high at club, CL, and Europe....Lets break down the team, we have maybe 5 players today that we can say are performing at a high level? Lets face it the current National team is made up of players struggling in the supa league, and in bottom feeders from abroad, with no European experience! If we compare 2002, up until 2014 we have dropped very low in player development, and the Supa league is to blame for this....Ask yourselves this question, the Greek league is very low in quality when compared to pre 2010....Name me 20 Greek players that are tearing it up in the worst league we have ever experienced in Greece, go ahead name me 20? Lets face it we are terrible, and it's going to be a long road back! If the Supa league doesn't correct itself and start producing talent, we will never qualify again! You all need to come to grips with the reality of not qualifying for at least 10 years, really it's becoming funny and laughable to think otherwise. How do you explain Cyprus with 35yo ex GSL rejects getting 400% more points than us in a much harder group? Cyprus talent pool is not on the same planet as Greece, neither is Hungary and Iceland.... Edited October 11, 2015 by RED SHERIFF
Akritis_1944 Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Red Sheriff, yes Cyprus is punching above their weight given they are still in contention to qualify so are Hungary, NI and a few other teams. These results are an anomaly as are the dubious performances Greek players have been putting in. They can turn this around. Pride will eventually slap them in to seriousness. Sokratis, Manolas, Samaris and more than a dozen other players are able to mix it with Europe's best but they are doormats for Finland and FI but Cyprus who are exactly the team which has struggled for 50 years beats Bosnia but Greece can't beat then according to some here. It's all so loopy. Hurry up and get this 0-0 done with Hungary so we can at least hope that WC qualifying isn't such a farce.
RED SHERIFF Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 that is my point... regarding the quality of the GSL being a factor...Other than PAO...Who were a power with class footballers, overall the league is better than it was in the period 2000-2004...AEK had better players then ,but were bankrupt and had a nut job for a president...they were in disarray off the field. OSFP are much better, so to are PAOK..On and off the field... I am not saying the league is where we want it to be....but there was some really horrible clubs around in that era.....Ethnikos asteras, Ionikos, Athinaikos, Paniliakos, Elefsina, Trikala.Kalamaria, Akratitos, Thrasyvoulos, etc etc... The domestic league of Cyprus does not equate to Cyprus NT (with Charalambides, Charalambou, Aloneftis all in their mid 30s) supported by a cast of nobodies achieve 400% more points than Greece. 1
RED SHERIFF Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 remember one theory that top European Managers put forward as to why Greece won Euro 2004 was that our foreign based players were very rested as they were not club regulars..? We now have many regulars in better leagues.
Akritis_1944 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 We have the best group of players in decades. With the right manager this group will top the WC qualifying group. Question is does EPO employ the right man?
RED SHERIFF Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I am not sure if we have the best group in decades.... what I know is we have better footballers than Hungary, Finland, Northern Ireland, Romania Faroe islands, Albania, Israel, Norway, Cyprus, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Scotland,EIRE, Belarus, Armenia, Iceland, Latvia , Estonia,Lithuania, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan who ended up finishing higher than we did...................................... 1
Akritis_1944 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Decades might be pushing it. At least since after the 1994 WC.
kbxk508 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Next coach has to be smart, tough and ensure that the next generation of players knows what it is required to play for NT. On and off the park. Zero tolerance in my opinion. What I saw in the Hungary game was that we have talent, players that can run for 90 min. I saw a youthfull team given the freedom to play and attack the opposition, which they did very well. There was nothing riding on the game, but it is these sort of games that you find your next incumbents. Right or wrong, there have been 53 players tried in this campaign and the new coach needs to fnd a squad of 20-23 players to take us forward. 1
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