Rockafeller Skank Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 6:44 AM, georgelaz said: no way he starts pelkas vs. belgium. he's shown he's conservative and in what could be one of the most pivotal matches of the campaign, no chance unless pelka gets a hat-trick against some big time team at paok I dont think so, since he has became a starter now that rodriguez waved goodbye, Pelkas will be noticed, he assisted and I also believe scored against Fiorentina. All the boy needs is some regular time and he ll find a better self - IF he is worth it.
paokarag4 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 pelkas did not score or assist v fiorentina. That was rodrigues In fact pelka looked off the pace when he came on in that game and turned the ball over a few times. He scored the winner vs Levediakos last week and he missed a bucket load of chances vs pas on the weekend. In short he is not starting material for the NT, not yet anyways. Does he have a spot in the squad? perhaps. 2
Dean97 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Pelkas definitely deserves to be in the national team. I saw the highlights of PAOK vs PAS and he missed a lot of chances, but when you see the level of our wingers in the team he should be involved.
Dean97 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 More than Mantalos and Fortounis. He has more speed and has played on the wing many times for Setubal in Portugal, PAOK and for the Ethniki.
Dean97 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 I also wouldn't mind seeing Platellas in the team. He looks like a smart player and he has good finishing. 1
RED SHERIFF Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Forget about Platellas......he will NEVER be a part of any successful Greek NT team...The guy is GSL bit/bench player.. 1
Original Sydney Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Platellas is too inconsistent and decision making is terrible. Sure he can run at players but he goes hiding too many times in matches, did it many times with AEK last few years. I know Amorgos wont like what I am saying though hahahahaha Edited January 13, 2017 by Original Sydney 1
paokarag4 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 doesn't sound too different to pelkas to be honest
RED SHERIFF Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Pelkas is a bit more consistent can also play central... However..yes in regards to NT...Pelkas,Platellas + Giannotas, just like Kolovos, Vlaxodimos ,Aravidis , Koutsianikoulis, (and Klonaridis) in the past...are not the solution... We are screaming out for quick skillful players to play in these advanced wide positions...and anyone that shows glimpses of something..we are quick to grasp on to... In reality you need players of the quality of Stelios, Mirallas, Galletti, Mak, Djole, Leto in these positions to make an impact.. To compare any of the current Greek players above is beyond laughable... That's why many here are still hanging on to Kone,Lazaros, Ninis and Fetfa...as options....at least these guys have played in major tournaments and club football at a decent level.. 1
ausgreek Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Need a wingman on the beach here, all the gomenes! Skank whats doin?
Original Sydney Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Amorgos said: My thoughts are of complete opposite IMO the Ethniki can only be better with some Platella on the wing and actually create chances for Mitro or Vellios I was waiting for you hahaha Ehhhh one time we can disagree ;)
Rockafeller Skank Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 16 hours ago, ausgreek said: Need a wingman on the beach here, all the gomenes! Skank whats doin? Im all up for it. When am I commin to flex my muscles to aus? 1
Rockafeller Skank Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 A fast wingman who is all up for hunting the through balls and not just keeping it on his feet waiting for others to come up will upgrade the team's total playstyle. Even if he is as bad as Platellas and Aravidis, who can't even make it in the first X1 of this Aek. We are a strong defensive team. Such teams hit on the counter. We can't hit on the counter with only Fortounis and Mitroglou. Mantalos can't play wide. He is a good offensive player but that's about it. He deserves to be in the starters but he clearly can't play winger. If I was to choose anything to represent us as a winger Id go for Gianniotas on the Right and Pelkas on the Left. Fortounis on the Center and Mitroglou up front. Mantalos could actually work on an offensive scheme that we should try vs Gibraltar, like 3-2-2-3. That would be fun. 1
Rockafeller Skank Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Can't wait for Kourbelis to mature a bit and have a midfield of Siopis - Kourbelis-Tachtsidis in a 3-5-2. After all, a man can dream right? Manolas - Kyriakos - Sokratis Siopis - Tachtsidis - Kourbelis - - Mantalos - - - - - Pelkas- - - - - - - - Fortounis - - - - - - - - - - - -Mitroglou - - - - - - - - - - - now that i saw it complete, it probably sux. but how much worse can it be than Tziolis Maniatis Anyways, point of the post is that if in 2-3 years Gianniotas, Kourbelis ,Siopis , Pelkas and Vellios don't end up as we hope, i clearly don't think we ll be making steps up but the opposite. In 2-3 years our current defenders will still be eligible , only missing a key player Torosidis, so if the players mentioned want it, we might actually end up better than expected. Edited January 15, 2017 by Rockafeller Skank
Rockafeller Skank Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Maybe add Lazaros Lamprou to that list. I know u ll start saying that "he couldn't even be a starter at Iraklis, the last GSL team, he probably ain't good". But I recently found out that the reason Lamprou was always starting after 60' is because a rule on his contract, that if he plays more than 30mins in each match he gets paid more. Now I know that Iraklis is not a hated team, at least for me, but after seeing this, I was wondering, then why the f*ck did u sign the player if u cant pay him?To destroy his career?
georgelaz Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Karnezis Manolas - Kyriakos - Sokratis Toro - Samaris - Staf - - -Tachtsi/Fetfa - - - - Mantalos- - - - - - - - Fortounis - - - - - - - - - - - -Mitroglou - - - - - - - - - - Let's think one tourny at a time. Toro will still be our best RB in 2018. Edited January 15, 2017 by georgelaz
Dean97 Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Siopis is very good in my opinion. I just saw the highlights of Atromitos vs Panionios, he works for the team, he is also fast and very agile with a good technique something we don't see in our national team's midfield. I haven't seen much of Kourbelis so I can't comment about him. I agree with Amorgos about needing to have runners in the midfield. Skibbe has played Maniatis and Samaris a lot in the midfield. Maybe it's time to play Siopis alongside either Samaris or Tachtsidis. Also Tasos Donis has potential to be in the national team for a few years. Retsos does too but our 3 defenders have it covered for the next 5-10 years. 1
kbxk508 Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Nothings certain for 10 years, in this millennium 1
ausgreek Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 The Skibbe is looking at Louka Villafanez (u20 Argentine rep). This shows Ninis, Kone, Fetfa and Pelka won't be considered again. Hope this guy is talented, from Panathenaikos.
RED SHERIFF Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I think it's a long stretch to say Ninis, Kone, Fetfa and Pelkas won't be considered again .... Villafanez is simply an additional option....(His grandfather was Greek).
ausgreek Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 If people are happy to pick players that play in the Chinese league, ie. Fetfa, as long as they are getting real minutes, then consider Samaras who plays in the NASL (same standard league, if not better), for LW for the pirates, where he has the most expertise over Anyone we have. He has more speed than Tzioli, Taxi and afew others.
georgelaz Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) we're not gunna see any surprises. basically skibbe's plan is Mitroglou Fortounis Mantalos Staf Samaris Tzav Sokratis Kpaps Manolas Toro Karnezis His 4 additional go-to's are karelis, tziolis, gianniotas tachtsi it's not shabby at all just karelis at LW and tziolis in general are mistakes. Belgium whole squad is pretty much in form tho, so we might get blown out. we're talking naingollan, hazard, courtois, de bruyne, lukaku. exoun piotita Edited January 19, 2017 by georgelaz
ausgreek Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Lazo, Kareli is out for 12 months with leg injury. Who better for LW than proven world cup goalscorer Samaras? The Pirates must start to phase in wingers sooner rather than later, even with the risks involved. The first option is Giorgios. His troubled times are behind him now and he can play. Edited January 19, 2017 by ausgreek
Nikitas Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 8 hours ago, georgelaz said: we're not gunna see any surprises. basically skibbe's plan is Mitroglou Fortounis Mantalos Staf Samaris Tzav Sokratis Kpaps Manolas Toro Karnezis His 4 additional go-to's are karelis, tziolis, gianniotas tachtsi it's not shabby at all just karelis at LW and tziolis in general are mistakes. Belgium whole squad is pretty much in form tho, so we might get blown out. we're talking naingollan, hazard, courtois, de bruyne, lukaku. exoun piotita papadopoulos is banned for this match so we should not look strange if skibbe play with 5 in the back and he uses tzavellas as left centerback and stafylidis as left back and maniatis as DM. or just 4 in the back and 3 DM's.
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