Lalin Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 PAO just announced Skazni as head coach. No other details are being mentioned at the moment. What will follow is that he will obey and follow Zaec's directives. I am upset as it is. It would piss me off to death if this means that Halkias will lose his place as first keeper. He earned that right. I hope that Zaec comes to his senses on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 HOLLY-SHlT :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Well, this guy won 2 championships with Sparta Prague in the Czech Rep. and a Cup championship with a small Czech team before he came to OFI. I don't think you can say he did bad with OFI. They finished in the middle of the league which is where they have been since the mid 90's. Skazny is gonna have a real tough job cause results are gonna have to come immediately but he knows this team very very well and it will show if he's a good coach or not very early. Let's hope he turns out good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCid Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Well, this guy won 2 championships with Sparta Prague in the Czech Rep. and a Cup championship with a small Czech team before he came to OFI. Actually,he was assistant coach in Sparta Prague and after that he took over Victoria Ziskow. He took the cup and lost the title in goals average.He's better than Mr.Schum,but only time will tell for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Experienced campaigner Scasny, 47, is promoted from the scouting role he has occupied at Panathinaikos since November 2003, when he stood down as OFI Crete FC coach. The details of his contract remain undisclosed. Prior to joining OFI in May 2002, Scasny had been in charge of AC Sparta Praha (1998-99) and FK Viktoria Zizkov (1998-2002). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pao123 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 not good enough for pao or me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX-18T Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 has this guy had any experience in Europe? If his got more experience in Europe than Schum I dont think its as bad as i thought If his got less then we are rooted :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Re his background doesn't make any difference... Since Kapetanios was gone and all these positions such as "technical manager" etc were created the coaches coming and going are all puppets. The are occuping the front-line so that they get all the fire when s%$#! comes down... Same was Markarian, Santos, Schum etc etc... That is why Bajevic never came and that is why Osim doesn't want to come.... The last of the real coaches at PAO was Kyrastas.... Even the 'big rebel' Anastasiadis took orders from Zaec (otherwise Souza wouldn't have played at all)... ;) The sooner you will realise the situation the better.... If Zaec doesn't go our coach position will be just for the eyes of the public.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX-18T Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 how can we make Zaec go? :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 To prove my point I just found the perfect article.... It is from contra gr and I will quote the whole thing so that it is clear to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panos13 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 The question whether Schum was a puppet and whether Skazni will be a puppet will be answered in the first game PAO play under Skazni and whether Halkias or Galinovic are picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 He must have some credentials as he previously coached sparta prague. Now there are no more excuses for Zaets if things do not work out from now. If things turn for the worse Zaets will be next in line for long service leave. Lets not forget Shums experience was limited on champions league level and management knew about it. So you can't blame him in the first place, the decision was made by management. Lets see if attitude changes in the squad with the new appointment. Management must make a decision if manoli and samartean continue to be injury plagued. Then they must look for new blood to replace these guys. The reason manoli didn't extend his career in england because the poms knew that had injury woes, that why he failed the medical and the transfer fell threw. Although these guys are brilliant players, there are no good to us if they only play one or two games in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I said it before. Scazny is a good coach, but he can't coach a Greek team, where lineups and training matters are run by others (managers, team presidents ...). That's why he was let go at OFI, and I see the same outcome at PAO. As long as he listens to Zaets, and the team does well, he will be fine, but if the team loses few games he will be out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalin Posted October 5, 2004 Author Share Posted October 5, 2004 I want to take this opportunity and wish him all the best in PAO, hoping that he will repeat and better Shums (Zaec) work. Time will tell if he will succumb to the dictatorship of Zaec and to what extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 this is a huge disapointment for me. not that hes a bad coach its just that all this dirty business with Zaec and its becoming his team, players he wants play coaches he want take charge.... guys wake up Soum was not fired because of poor performances...i feel this change is going to shake up the team and cause us to drop a couple points....i dont think we would drop any with Soum. Galinovic does not deserve the 1st spot.... i will be very angry to see him take it in the first game. this team is for ATHENS not for Zaec and his stupid croatian football dream. Why couldnt we have gotten Rocha back???? Thats the team i want to see again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pao123 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 if galinovic starts next saturday we will know whats going on...skazni is not qualified to coach pao...zaec is not going anywhere anytime soon so we just have to wait and see whats gunna happen...mb we will do better then expected but i am not happy with this at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 horrible horrible move from Zaiec and co. As good as i know Scasni's biggest success is becoming 2nd with Victoria Zyzkov in Czech Gambrinus some years ago... pity that the biggest candidate for being Zaiec's puppet is selected... :( and i have to say i smell a rebuilding with all the croatians making the line-up... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCid Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Actually,he was assistant coach in Sparta Prague and after that he took over Victoria Ziskow. He took the cup and lost the title in goals average.Sportime ( http://www.sportime.gr/html/ent/420/ent.38420.asp ) indicates he was head coach, so I have to correct myself. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasili0s Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 This will be very interesting :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I was not a fan of Shoum and I'm very happy to see him go! Now, I don't know this new guy, but my first reaction is that he doesn't have the credentials to be PAO's coach. I wish him the best. I do hope he's got ..balls and the integrity to stand up to management and select the best players for the team.... PAO needs a coach who 1. has the eye to see who's doing what on the pitch. 2. has a strong personality 3. has a VISION to lead the team to the future.......... AND, finally, PAO's management/owners should stop behaving like a whore... I read Pappou's cited article and I almost wept.... We should get a great coach and give him the time to produce.... Otherwise, we'll be like the ..Mets and the Knicks (in NY) who change coaches like dirty underwear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsurfer Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Don't go after Zaec ...go after Vardinoyiannis Clan ...they give the power to Zaec.... They refuse to give clear structures....in order to control everything... Sorry to tell you.... but you have structures.... of a Feudal Era...... and don't forget guys..... The Greek Way of Managing Football Clubs: Absolutism.., Patriarchic.., Feudal.., Arbitrary.., Aimless., Erratic - - - In the Greek World of Football... the technical decisions are taken by the person with the biggest wallet, not with the most technical knowledge PS.. Except very few clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCid Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Sorry to tell you.... but you have structures.... of a Feudal Era...... Feudal - yes. I think there isn't another word that suits so much when talking about Vardinoyannis' family and methods :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 if galinovic starts next saturday we will know whats going on...skazni is not qualified to coach pao...zaec is not going anywhere anytime soon so we just have to wait and see whats gunna happen...mb we will do better then expected but i am not happy with this at all.. Guys you dont have to see Galinovic in to realise that Zaec rules... Halkias will probably start but that won't mean anything... Perhaps they don't want to create to much fuzz by putting galinovic in as soon as Schum left the team.... ;) I am telling you. The last coach at PAO was Kyrastas (RIP) in the 1999-2000 seasons... Since then PAO HAS NO coaches!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I think we are blowing this whole Puppet thing way out of proportion. Yes the coach meets with Zajec to discuss the team but the coach is always given the final word in decisions. Shum said himself that he was the one who decided everything last year and he would only meet with Zajec before games to discuss the team. Yes Zajec would make recommendations and yes sometimes Shum would do what Zajec recommended but Shum never did anything that he didn't want to do. The problems started happening this year amongst Zajec and Shum. When Shum went against what zajec said and decided to start Morris on the right and ended up being wrong for doing so. Once Management saw the mistakes Shum was making they had Zajec step in and start giving the starting linueps and so on and so forth. Of course Shum didn't like this which led to his firing. However, i think management will give Skazny a chance to try and do what he wants to do with this team and he will only meet with Zajec before games like Shum did at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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