PAOKSYD Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 9 hours ago, BostonThanatos said: I had more pride in PAOK with $15 Million in debt, a crappy website, a 2nd rate boutique, and bad dressing rooms. The team and players had passion. If you believe PAOK was anything more than a stepping stone and doorway for other MUCH larger investments, and nothing else, you're fooling yourself. If some rich guy remodelled you bathroom and kitchen and paid your mortgage for a year, but then bangs your wife and laughs at you with his friends, will you be grateful? Man we lost in europe banbing your wife and bathrooms hahahah wtf leave those jokes to raptopoulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiankos Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Όλοι λέμε τα ίδια και τα ίδια εδώ και 5 χρόνια... Ο ΠΑΟΚ δεν κουμαντάρεται ούτε με skype, ούτε με τηλέφωνα. Ο Σαββίδης από τη στιγμή που είναι τόσο έξυπνος και εκατομμυριούχος και μέσα στα κόλπα θα έπρεπε να το έχει καταλάβει από την πρώτη στιγμή. Άρα ξαναγυρνάμε στα παλιά. Είτε το κάνει επίτηδες, είτε είναι πανηλίθιος. Το δεύτερο δεν μπορώ να το πιστέψω. Την γιαγιά μου να βάλεις πρόεδρο στον ΠΑΟΚ για 5 χρόνια, τόσες μαλακίες που έκανε ο Σαββίδης δεν θα κάνει. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 For 5 consecutive years our squad has improved in quality. What do you have to say about that Yiankos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 16 hours ago, PAOKSYD said: Man we lost in europe banbing your wife and bathrooms hahahah wtf leave those jokes to raptopoulos It's not a joke. It's an analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, PAOKSYD said: For 5 consecutive years our squad has improved in quality. What do you have to say about that Yiankos? 5 years ago our squad was: Goal keepers: Glykos/Indeje Defenders: Lino (Matos pretty even), Schildenfeld (Better than Crespo/Varella), Katsikas (on par with Crespo/Varella), Stafylidis(WAY better than LEovac), Konstandinidis Midfielders: Garcia (Better than Sakhov), Vukic, Kace, Fotakis, Katsouranis Wingers/Forward: Georgiadis, Salpi, Klaus (18-23 goals a year Klaus, not the recent Klaus, lets see what Prijo does this full season) Have we REALLY improved? Besides MAYBE the wingers? ...and even that, we had just gotten rid of Vierinha who was way better then than any winger we have now. Don't mistake Payroll for Quality. Edited August 27, 2017 by BostonThanatos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Word on the street is we're closing a 3 year deal with Mauricio, a Defensive midfielder from Zenit that Transfermarket values at $3.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I was wondering what happened to that rumor. Would be a good pickup. Would also signify that Torres said no to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Did we announce a new signing during the game today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not as far as I can see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Mauricio set to be in Thessaloniki on the 29th to complete his signing. Wants the #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 never seen him play, he only had one season at Zenit so not sure what to make of that, hopefully he and El Kaddouri can give us a much needed lift. Wouldn't mind a centre back before the window closes, doesn't have to be starting quality, just a solid back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Personally, I only want a CB if he's a big improvement over what we have. If we're getting a rotation player, then I want to see Poungouras get time. The kid has potential, which will never be realized if he's constantly superseded by average-quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Agree about the CB i.e. we should only get one if he's clearly better than Crespo/Varela. As for Mauricio, what sort of a player is he ? I'm not even sure how he'll be used in the team. El Khaddouri sounds like he'll be a number 8, so I imagine he will be rotated with Shakhov who seems to be out of sorts so far this season. We still need a solid number 6 to rotate with Canas. Someone who can really sweep in the middle and do the dirty work. Only Canas, when he's in form, does it properly. Cimirot is hit and miss in the role, so some backup there would be good. I'd give my left nut (figuratively speaking) for a Garcia type player who can just stamp his presence on a game. Edited August 28, 2017 by Bananas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The only thing I really know about Mauricio is that he's a #6 (damn you Leveque for taking that number), so he'd give that extra competition for Canas that you mention. Also unsure about El Khaddouri - he's sold as a #10 but also as a standard midfielder. I guess we'll see soon - he'll likely get minutes during the next match day. In fact, I'd be surprised if he didn't play in our friendly vs Volos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Warda may end up at Atromitos. Would be a good move for him, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Qarabag want Pedro Henrique on loan for now and to buy him in the next summer for 3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well that came out of nowhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Dutch Eagle said: Qarabag want Pedro Henrique on loan for now and to buy him in the next summer for 3 million. That might be the move needed if they are really thinking of signing Vierinha. I think someone mentioned we would prefer 2.5 mil outright sale instead of a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Michel confirmed that he is in negotiations with Qarabag concerning Henrique. I think we will see a lot of moves by PAOK in the next 3 days. Both coming and going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 With Mystakidi coming back, and if El Kaddouri is an actual 10ari, Biseswar has done decent on the wing before....if Vierinha IS in the plans, makes total sense financially and scheme-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think I'd rather have Henrique over Vieirinha...I predict he'll be injured as often as Leveque. But still, if we were to get 3mm out of Henrique, might be worth it. I don't see that player's value jumping much more than that (especially with no EL games to show him off). Only question is, would the player accept the move? I don't know if I would in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The prospect of playing in a group stage of CL might be a good incentive. BTW we only owe 80% of Henrique. The 20% goes to Rennais. The only reason to part with Henrique is to be able to afford Vierinha. That's why PAOK is pushing to sell him to Qarabag instead of loaning him. Apparently we are in deep hole financially for this current season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcp4 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) what the reason for the financial hole?? Did we bite off more than we can chew, and go over budget? Edited August 28, 2017 by mcp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Is this Kolkas' reporting? At the end of the day, we're only in a hole if Savvidis decides we are. Come to think of it, we could do worse than to get rid of a few people. A good offer for Leovac and Cimirot will both open up room for homegrown players and cover some of the post EL revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The financial hole is due to Financial Fair Play requirements. Savvidis can't just pour money in. It somehow needs to be "legitimate". I believe if he pours money in it either needs to show on the books as a loan or he needs to increase his share allocation. At least, that's my understanding of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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