drakos13 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) Bad Olympics so far for Greece indeed, but again, there's still time to pull out a few medals. I wouldn't venture to say that these are the worst Olympics of all time for us, at least not yet. It wasn't that long ago where getting ONE medal, even bronze, was a huge success for Greece. Looking at some historical medal counts: 1992: 2 golds 1988: 1 bronze 1984: 1 silver, 1 bronze 1980 (boycotted by the US and many others): 1 gold, 2 bronze 1976: none! 1972: 2 silver 1968: 1 bronze 1964: none 1960: 1 gold ...and so on I'm still optimistic we can come away with a few medals, though not as many as in 2000 or 2004, which was to be expected....just consider that most of our weightlifting team was disqualified before the games even started...they've been the source of several medals since 1996, even one of our two in 1992. As an aside, I think several countries will see dropoffs in their medal count, with China's meteoric rise this year. Yeah I didnt realize.....I really dont remember any Olympics before 96 so......But yeah I know about weightlifiting....that will hurt us. It seems like were going to get a few medals afterall...at least were in contention now that Athletics started... I responded to your other post in the Free Greek TV threads BTW Edited August 16, 2008 by drakos13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 and iakovakis qualifies for semis in the 400m hurdles On to finals on Monday-- but will be in tough there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 gazis the boxer out 12-1 :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Louis Tsatoumas has qualified for the finals in the long jump! :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Fanis Halkia Caught Doping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheLegend Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 greece's olympic team is a xeftilia this year bravo halkia... win a gold then take drugs.... model athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheLegend Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 A total of 15 Greek athletes, including Halkia, have tested positive for methyltrienolone we are a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxiotis7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Louis Tsatoumas has qualified for the finals in the long jump! :gr: whens the final?ANd Im shocked about fani. I would have never belived that. How come she had to do mroe testing than everyone else? Olympics are getting out of control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurelyAcademic Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I won't comment about the doping...inexcusable for any athlete to be doing it but it does seem like WADA and the IOC are picking and choosing their targets (and who not to target) this year. Let's leave it at that for now. The good news is...we have our first medal! Bronze in women's sailing: http://www.contra.gr/Sailing/World/Olympic...008/208835.html Congratulations to the women for their success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStriker Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hooray for women's sailing! :nw: I just saw it on NET-ET1 "Yia tin Ellada re gamoto" Sophia (one of the sailors) says on camera. :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Say it ain't so, Fani... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 10.30: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurelyAcademic Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 You're right. EVERY athlete from EVERY nation should be doped, by a truly independent, transparent body, with transparent results, and one which keeps up with the times in terms of the new technologies in the world of doping. The current system of random testing is just far too convenient for the IOC and WADA and the more powerful nations to all have a heavy influence in determining who will and who won't be tested. It also gives athletes/nations which have "first dibs" on new doping technology an unfair advantage, as they get to take advantage of doping agents before they find themselves on the blacklist, whilst coming off as "clean" athletes. Now as far as the Greek athletes, as far as I know, most of them were tested while they were in Japan before the Olympics. That's where Halkia was tested too. So if this is the only negative result so far, it's likely a positive sign....but it doesn't mean that they are "in the clear" yet. Hopefully this will be the last of such incidents for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurelyAcademic Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Another medal! Silver this time, in Men's Rowing. Dimitrios Mougios and Vasilios Polymeros bring us our second medal at this year's Olympics. Congratulations to them! http://www.nbcolympics.com/rowing/resultsa...2100/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hooray for women's sailing! :nw: I just saw it on NET-ET1 "Yia tin Ellada re gamoto" Sophia (one of the sailors) says on camera. :tup: :gr: :LOL: :gr: 2 medals - and triple jump in a few hours re doping --- EVERYONE is cheating -- I am sure of it- at least the track stars The Toronto Star did an article on the 20 year anniversary of Ben Johnson getting caught --- 6 of the 8 were caught at one point or another, or did things similar to Thanou to hide their cheating So if we are cheating - we have to cheat better I guess :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 bronze triple jump :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Devetzi got the bronze......3 medals in a day not bad. finally some improvement. :gr: In other news: Pavlidis (boxer) eliminated weightlifting went today, in the same category of weight, not in lifting though. No hope of getting medals there this year anyways. But please, pick Greece for every doping test.... and nobody else :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUDE Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I was disappointed with Devetzi's performance. Of the 6 jumps she had 4 disallowed :blink: Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genome Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Finally some movement ! ! ! :gr: :tup: :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Today Tsoumas for long jump -- was the #1 qualifier with a season's best Iakovakis 400m hurdles -- will need to run much faster than he has all season to win a medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxiotis7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 what time loup?^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) 20:10 and 22:00 I guess that is tomorrow for most of us Beijing Time 12 hours ahead of EST so 8 AM Monday and 10 AM Monday Edited August 17, 2008 by loup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 A big BRAVO to Pigi Devetzi! :tup: She competed cleanly and brought back a medal once more in the Olympics for Greece! :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStriker Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 You're right. EVERY athlete from EVERY nation should be doped, by a truly independent, transparent body, with transparent results, and one which keeps up with the times in terms of the new technologies in the world of doping. The current system of random testing is just far too convenient for the IOC and WADA and the more powerful nations to all have a heavy influence in determining who will and who won't be tested. It also gives athletes/nations which have "first dibs" on new doping technology an unfair advantage, as they get to take advantage of doping agents before they find themselves on the blacklist, whilst coming off as "clean" athletes. Now as far as the Greek athletes, as far as I know, most of them were tested while they were in Japan before the Olympics. That's where Halkia was tested too. So if this is the only negative result so far, it's likely a positive sign....but it doesn't mean that they are "in the clear" yet. Hopefully this will be the last of such incidents for us. Completely agree. What is up with these "random" tests? So getting caught (or not) is based on luck? Everyone should have an equal chance of getting busted. Are these drug tests so expensive and time consuming that they can only be administered to a portion of the athletes? That's complete vlakies. All you got to do is woop out your poulaki, piss in a cup, hand it to some scientist and end of story. On a side note, what do you guys think about the swimmers this year? It seems like almost every race (and I am not exaggerating), the world record was broken, in some cases it wasn't even close, and sometimes more than one swimmer within the same race beat the previous world record. It got to the point that I expected a new world record to be set for every race. I'm not an expert in swimming, so is it really possible that in 4 years time since Athens, that so many swimmers became that much better without doping? And how? Through better coaching techniques, weight training, more aerodynamic swimsuits, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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