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Now that we secured the 2nd place (barring any point deductions for the Platanias game) let's look ahead to out participation in the 2018-2019 European competitions.

PAOK will start the 2018-2019 European competitions in the Champions League qualifying rounds. UEFA changed the format of the qualifying rounds for  non-champions route.  In the past, 5 teams from the non-champion route qualified to the group stage of the competitions. With the new format only 2 non-champion teams will qualify to the group stage. The other major difference is that teams from Spain, England, Italy and Germany will not take part in the non-champion qualifying.

PAOK enters the competition with 29.500 points in the rankings. Unfortunately this could be higher if we did not do so poorly last season by beingb eliminated by Ostersund.

PAOK will enter the competition in the 2nd Qualifying Round of CL and will need to eliminate 3 teams in order to reach the group stage. Let’s take a look on what PAOK can expect:

QUALIFYIN ROUND 2 (non-champions):

Six teams will take part in this round. PAOK could be seeded in this rounds. It all depends on who wins the Turkish championship. If Galatasaray wins, then PAOK will be seeded. If Basaksehir manages to spring a surprise and wins the Turkish title then PAOK will be unseeded.

Let’s look at the possible situations:

If Galatasary wins Turkish championship:

SEEDED TEAMS:

FC Basel  (SWI) – 71.000
Ajax Amsterdam (HOL) – 53.500
PAOK Thessaloniki  (GRE) - 29.500

UNSEEDED TEAMS (possible PAOK opponents:

Basaksehir (TUR) –  8.500
Slavia Prague or Sigma Olomouc  (CZE) – 7.500
Sturm Graz  (AUT) – 2.500

I Galatasaray finishes 2nd in Turkey than they will be in the seeded group and PAOK will fall to the unseeded group.

The draw for Qualifying Round 2 will take place on June 19. The games will be played on July 24/25 and July 31/August 1.

If PAOK does not qualify than we automatically enter the Europa League Qualifying Round 3, where we will most like be among the seeded teams.

QUALIFYIN ROUND 3 (non-champions):

If PAOK qualifies to Qualifying Round 3, then along with the two other teams that qualify, the following teams will be taking part:

Ukraine 2nd place: Dinamo Kiyv or Shakhtor Donetsk
Portugal 2nd place:  Benfica Lisbon or Sporting Lisbon
Belgium 2nd place: Anderlecht Brussels or Standard Liege
France 3rd place:  Olympique Lyon or AS Monaco or Olympique Marseille
Russia 3rd place:  Spartak Moscow or CSKA Moscow or Zenit St. Petersburg

PAOK will be in the unseeded group of teams.

The draw for 3rd qualifying round will take place on July 23 and the games will be played on August 7/8 and August 14/15.

If PAOK loses in this round we will automatically enter the group stage of Europa League.

QUALIFYIN ROUND 4 (non-champions):

If PAOK by miracle manages to qualify to this round with the 3 other teams from qualifying round 3 than we will play for one of the two spots that lead to the group stage of CL.

PAOK will be unseeded.

The draw will take place on August 6 and the games will take place4 on August 21/22 and August 28/29.

If PAOK loses in this round we will automatically enter the group stage of Europa League.

Nothing is impossible, but I think realistically PAOK’s best chance is qualifying from the qualifying group 2 and then ending up in the group stage of Europa League.

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Great link Olandezike Aete

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I just hope we avoid the Turkish team on the 2nd round and we progress. And then we have nothing to lose, we will be the outsiders as we were against Schalke or Shaktar.

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Οχι παλι Γερμανία και Ουκρανία!

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There are no German teams in the qualifying rounds of CL.

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Things got messed up for us with Atletico and Marseille in the final of EL. Now there are only 4 teams/countries in NCQ2. Basel, 020 (#2 Dutch League) and PAOK are confirmed teams. The fourth is not certain yet, but will have the worst coefficient of all for sure. This leaves us unseeded against either Basel or 020.........

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13 minutes ago, Dutch Eagle said:

Things got messed up for us with Atletico and Marseille in the final of EL. Now there are only 4 teams/countries in NCQ2. Basel, 020 (#2 Dutch League) and PAOK are confirmed teams. The fourth is not certain yet, but will have the worst coefficient of all for sure. This leaves us unseeded against either Basel or 020.........

020 = FC TWENTE?

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No, FC Twente is relegated, thus #18.

One clue: 020 is from the capital. It is like Lord Voldemort; The club that cannot be named.

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Please no Ajax again.

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Whatever comes, let it come. If Savvidis continue buying good players we have nothing to be afraid of. We played against Ajax, Shaktar, and Schalke in the past. What worse can happen? And if we make it to the next round a big team is waiting for us anyway.

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On 5/6/2018 at 3:13 AM, Dutch Eagle said:

Things got messed up for us with Atletico and Marseille in the final of EL. Now there are only 4 teams/countries in NCQ2. Basel, 020 (#2 Dutch League) and PAOK are confirmed teams. The fourth is not certain yet, but will have the worst coefficient of all for sure. This leaves us unseeded against either Basel or 020.........

That's not 100% true as we still a chance that there will be 6 teams in NCQ2. It all depends on Marseille. They need to win Europa League and then finish 4th in the French League. 

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If we kept Prijovic AND we got a quality DM AND a CB similar to Varela, I think we could take on Ajax.  Not that we couldn't beat them now but realistically the odds are the usual 75/25.

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Don't want Ajax. We have hard time eliminating any Dutch team in Europe historically.

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On 5/7/2018 at 9:41 PM, Yiankos said:

Whatever comes, let it come. If Savvidis continue buying good players we have nothing to be afraid of. We played against Ajax, Shaktar, and Schalke in the past. What worse can happen? And if we make it to the next round a big team is waiting for us anyway.

etsi akribws sebomaste alla den fobomaste kanena giati PAOK EIMASTE !!!! h pio rock omada sthn Ellada gia na mhn pw ston planhth !!!!

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Seeing how things are right now, I guess our possible opponents in the second round will be one of the following clubs:

AJAX, Basel or Fenerbahce. 

I think AJAX is the weakest of those teams (Dutch football in general is facing a decline in the last years). But personally I'd prefer Basel just to have an opponent that we did not have in the past. 

 

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After the weekend we are a decent chance to be seeded in the second qualifying round of the Champions league and thus avoid Basel and Ajax. We just need Basaksehir to hold onto to 2nd place in the Turkey with one game to go. Although after a quick look at the Uefa coefficient it seems Galatasary and Fenerbache are both ranked below us. So even if they end up 2nd we'd still be seeded. Besiktas are the ones who would bump us out of the seeded group. 

In the Czech league as long as Plzen don't implode and blow their 7 point lead with 2 games to play (2nd has a game in hand so still mathematically possible) and Sparta Prague don't pull a miracle off and end up second (whom they are currently 4 points behind having played a game more) then there shouldn't be any worry of any team from the Czech Republic knocking us out of the seeded teams. 

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Being seeded in QR2 now depends on Marseille winning Europa League. if Atletico wins EL there will be only 4 teams in QR2 with Alax and  Basel seeded, and PAOK and Sturm Graz unseeded.

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1 hour ago, Blackhawk said:

Being seeded in QR2 now depends on Marseille winning Europa League. if Atletico wins EL there will be only 4 teams in QR2 with Alax and  Basel seeded, and PAOK and Sturm Graz unseeded.

If that's the case then hello AJAX or Basel. 

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With our luck it will be Ajax.

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Marseille got destroyed by Atletico Madrid in the final of Europa League, which means we will be unseeded in the 2nd Qualifying Round of Champions League. Here are the seedings:

SEEDED TEAMS:

FC Basel  (SWI) – 71.000
Ajax Amsterdam (HOL) – 53.500

UNSEEDED TEAMS

PAOK Thessaloniki  (GRE) - 29.500
Sturm Graz  (AUT) – 2.500

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Φέρτε μας τον Αγιαξ, κατι χρωστάμε στους Ολλανδούς. Θα γίνει και ωραία εκδρομή 😎

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Φέρτε τον Άγιαξ, συμφωνώ. Εδώ πήραμε διπλό στο ΟΑΚΑ και σηκώσαμε Κύπελλο, στην προϊστορία με τους Ολλανδούς και τους δύο αποκλεισμούς από τον Άγιαξ θα κολλήσουμε; Ήρθε η ώρα να σπάσει και αυτή η παράδοση λοιπόν. Άγιαξ τρέμε!

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Yeah man, bring on Ajax.  We'll get then at the 3rd 4th 5th 6th attempt.

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3rd time is the charm.

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