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BostonThanatos    454

I had more pride in PAOK with $15 Million in debt, a crappy website, a 2nd rate boutique, and bad dressing rooms.  The team and players had passion.  If you believe PAOK was anything more than a stepping stone and doorway for other MUCH larger investments, and nothing else, you're fooling yourself.  If some rich guy remodelled you bathroom and kitchen and paid your mortgage for a year, but then bangs your wife and laughs at you with his friends, will you be grateful?

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Bananas    976

I'll take a half baked Savvidis and Son over the years of old.  I think we all forget how players would leave at the end of every season with out being paid.  We forget how we were forced to sell players like Stafylidis and Vieirinha because we had debts to pay other players.  We forget Salpi being forced to leave even though he wanted to stay because again they needed to sell him to pay debts.  We forget how Malezas left the club not paid and as a favour he let it go and who knows how many others.  They were terrible years.

Savvidis is in it for himself.  Who isn't ?  Are any of the other owners any better.  No one is happy with what happened this week, but trust me, if Savvidis left PAOK would fall to pieces very quickly.  We are not, and have never been financially stable.  Wages would drop back to 150K for most players and even they wouldn't be paid.

As shitty as this elimination is, there is no way in f**king hell I want to go back to those days.  We had good moments, proud moments, but lots of bad ones also.

End of the day, the circus of hiring/firing TD's and managers has to end.  Will it end ?  Who knows.  Ivic broke the record at just over a season.  That says it all.  I've said it before, we could hire Mourinho and we'd be asking for his head in a month.

Off the field the teams lacks leadership, because the manager is new.  Is Lucescu any good for PAOK ?  Who f--king knows ?  Only the gods.  We'll find out soon enough.  On the field the team lacks leadership also but I don't see how this can be fixed right away.  You can't expect players we've signed to play "for the jumper".  Let's be honest, most of them wouldn't have heard of PAOK 3 years ago.  The only saving grace of this season so far is that we still have the core of players from last season which for us is a miracle.  Normally we would've made 10 signings by now to appease the fans.  The only person that can change the mentality of the players is the manager and right now he's been there two weeks.

If I die and get to meet God or Zeus or Thor or whoever, and they said to me "You can ask one question and it will be answered", a normal person would ask something like "What is the meaning of life" or something like that.  Instead I (because I'm a m-a-l-a-k-a) will ask "Why did Ivic really leave PAOK".

Ase, eimaste yia klammata.

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paokarag4    164

agree 100% with you bananas, of course we are in better shape these days and for that I am thankful to Savvidis. But that doesn't excuse the fact at how poorly we are run, and now more than ever there is no excuse for it because we are financially stable and in a strong position. 

As I said earlier Ivan stays no doubt about that, but he needs to leave the people that he puts in place to run the football department actually run it. Our last 2 Td's have bought in good players and now it seems we are about to see the back of Michel. We will never contend as long as this merry-go-round continues that is a fact

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PAOKSYD    121
9 hours ago, BostonThanatos said:

I had more pride in PAOK with $15 Million in debt, a crappy website, a 2nd rate boutique, and bad dressing rooms.  The team and players had passion.  If you believe PAOK was anything more than a stepping stone and doorway for other MUCH larger investments, and nothing else, you're fooling yourself.  If some rich guy remodelled you bathroom and kitchen and paid your mortgage for a year, but then bangs your wife and laughs at you with his friends, will you be grateful?

Man we lost in europe banbing your wife and bathrooms hahahah wtf leave those jokes to raptopoulos

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Yiankos    79

Όλοι λέμε τα ίδια και τα ίδια εδώ και 5 χρόνια... Ο ΠΑΟΚ δεν κουμαντάρεται ούτε με skype, ούτε με τηλέφωνα. Ο Σαββίδης από τη στιγμή που είναι τόσο έξυπνος και εκατομμυριούχος και μέσα στα κόλπα θα έπρεπε να το έχει καταλάβει από την πρώτη στιγμή. Άρα ξαναγυρνάμε στα παλιά. Είτε το κάνει επίτηδες, είτε είναι πανηλίθιος. Το δεύτερο δεν μπορώ να το πιστέψω. Την γιαγιά μου να βάλεις πρόεδρο στον ΠΑΟΚ για 5 χρόνια, τόσες μαλακίες που έκανε ο Σαββίδης δεν θα κάνει.

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BostonThanatos    454
9 hours ago, PAOKSYD said:

For 5 consecutive years our squad has improved in quality. 

What do you have to say about that Yiankos? 

5 years ago our squad was:

Goal keepers: Glykos/Indeje

Defenders: Lino (Matos pretty even), Schildenfeld (Better than Crespo/Varella), Katsikas (on par with Crespo/Varella), Stafylidis(WAY better than LEovac), Konstandinidis

Midfielders: Garcia (Better than Sakhov), Vukic, Kace, Fotakis, Katsouranis

Wingers/Forward: Georgiadis, Salpi, Klaus (18-23 goals a year Klaus, not the recent Klaus, lets see what Prijo does this full season)

Have we REALLY improved? Besides MAYBE the wingers?  ...and even that, we had just gotten rid of Vierinha who was way better then than any winger we have now.

Don't mistake Payroll for Quality.

Edited by BostonThanatos

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pash    1,245

I was wondering what happened to that rumor. Would be a good pickup. Would also signify that Torres said no to us.

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pash    1,245

Mauricio set to be in Thessaloniki on the 29th to complete his signing. Wants the #8.

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paokarag4    164

never seen him play, he only had one season at Zenit so not sure what to make of that, hopefully he and El Kaddouri can give us a much needed lift. Wouldn't mind a centre back before the window closes, doesn't have to be starting quality, just a solid back up. 

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pash    1,245

Personally, I only want a CB if he's a big improvement over what we have. If we're getting a rotation player, then I want to see Poungouras get time. The kid has potential, which will never be realized if he's constantly superseded by average-quality players.

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Bananas    976

Agree about the CB i.e. we should only get one if he's clearly better than Crespo/Varela.

As for Mauricio, what sort of a player is he ?  I'm not even sure how he'll be used in the team.

El Khaddouri sounds like he'll be a number 8, so I imagine he will be rotated with Shakhov who seems to be out of sorts so far this season.

We still need a solid number 6 to rotate with Canas.  Someone who can really sweep in the middle and do the dirty work.  Only Canas, when he's in form, does it properly.  Cimirot is hit and miss in the role, so some backup there would be good.  I'd give my left nut (figuratively speaking) for a Garcia type player who can just stamp his presence on a game.

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pash    1,245

The only thing I really know about Mauricio is that he's a #6 (damn you Leveque for taking that number), so he'd give that extra competition for Canas that you mention.

Also unsure about El Khaddouri - he's sold as a #10 but also as a standard midfielder. I guess we'll see soon - he'll likely get minutes during the next match day. In fact, I'd be surprised if he didn't play in our friendly vs Volos.

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pash    1,245

Warda may end up at Atromitos. Would be a good move for him, all things considered.

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Dutch Eagle    615

Qarabag want Pedro Henrique on loan for now and to buy him in the next summer for 3 million.

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Blackhawk    798
25 minutes ago, Dutch Eagle said:

Qarabag want Pedro Henrique on loan for now and to buy him in the next summer for 3 million.

That might be the move needed if they are really thinking of signing Vierinha. I think someone mentioned we would prefer 2.5 mil outright sale instead of a loan.

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Blackhawk    798

Michel confirmed that he is in negotiations with Qarabag concerning Henrique. 

I think we will see a lot of moves by PAOK in the next 3 days. Both coming and going.

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BostonThanatos    454

With Mystakidi coming back, and if El Kaddouri is an actual 10ari, Biseswar has done decent on the wing before....if Vierinha IS in the plans, makes total sense financially and scheme-wise.

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pash    1,245

I think I'd rather have Henrique over Vieirinha...I predict he'll be injured as often as Leveque.

But still, if we were to get 3mm out of Henrique, might be worth it. I don't see that player's value jumping much more than that (especially with no EL games to show him off). Only question is, would the player accept the move? I don't know if I would in his place.

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Blackhawk    798

The prospect of playing in a group stage of CL might be a good incentive. BTW we only owe 80% of Henrique. The 20% goes to Rennais.

The only reason to part with Henrique is to be able to afford Vierinha. That's why PAOK is pushing to sell him to Qarabag instead of loaning him. Apparently we are in deep hole financially for this current season so far.

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