Omonoia9 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 +4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrappeFetish Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I have to think we would've won this 2-1 if Sokratis and Manolas were available to help defend the set-pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitas Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 how fast it went downwards after the oikonomou error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Tachtsidis is a nothing player. Good vision, little else. If we are persisting with 3-5-2 it should be a midfield 3 of Petsos - Mantalos -Samaris. I like the idea of Fortounis playing withdrawn behind a target man. Edited March 29, 2016 by George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Hopefully Skibbe is actually watching this. The difference between certain players is night-and-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 That's game. Well-deserved loss. Pame Islandiaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omonoia9 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Moras from midfield save Halldorsson and that should do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omonoia9 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Greece 2-3 Iceland FT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 So ... overall impressions? How can we be so horrible at set piece defending? That's clearly a tactical/practice issue. Moras is a solid player and he has a great story, but time to retire from the NT. Siovas sucks. Klapino is a tragedy ... Let's hope Karnezis has 4 more years left in him so we can find a young player to groom for the position ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockafeller Skank Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Defensively we sucked no doubt , however stafylidis , moras , oikonomou , tzavellas , siovas. none of these defenders are starters/soon to be starters. Kapino was terrible too,not a starter either. Positive is the fact that we ve managed to score 4 times in 2 matches. we re starting to make decent offence. Edited March 29, 2016 by Rockafeller Skank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omonoia9 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 I guess I'll take the win over Montenegro, because any time this team wins it's a minor miracle anymore. There was a time not so long ago you'd bet your life on this team to close out ANY 2-0 lead, opponent regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Congrats on embarrassing themselves once again. I don't think they realize how important it is to put together a string of wins at this point in time, after the worst qualifying campaign in the team's history. What are they doing sending back all their CBs, their best midfielder and top in-form striker? Their top 3 CBs were missing today, which is a joke. On top of everything, we kept subbing everyone with even more inexperienced players, in an untried formation. Again, it was important to string wins and get back to a workable psychological level. Instead, they humiliated themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Moral of the story without Karelis & Fortounis we look sterile. If Manolas & Sokratis were playing they probably would've got only 1 goal, add kpaps and we might've shut them out. We are a very top heavy team. Petsos looks great out there too. Karelis Mitroglou Mantalos Fortounis Kpaps Samaris Holebas Sokratis Manolas Torosidis Karnezis I like Kpaps in midfield a free flowing CB. The 2-3 games we've let him do that, our opponents rarely scored. I really wished we played for the win though. Eg) playing Karnezis, not subbing Fortounis/karelis out, only Velios not Patsa or Diamantakos. We might've got it with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Let's at least keep in mind this is the Iceland team that kept Netherlands out of the Euros. Still, you can never lose a 2-0 lead. Never. That was the worst second half I've seen since ... well since every half Ranieri managed. I know Skibbe was tinkering with lineups, but why the f--k do you leave guys like Kone and Lazaros on the bench and put a small LB in at CM? I don't care about their club playing time, they are good players who are natural midfielders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Kyriakos latest injury really hurts out depth ... that dude is the unluckiest guy ever and he is still just 23/24! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Velios looked decent doing a lot of things all on his own like he does for Iraklis. Velios Mitroglou Karelis Obviously our top 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I like Kpaps in midfield a free flowing CB. The 2-3 games we've let him do that, our opponents rarely scored. Where are you getting that from? Kpaps has played, what, three times for the ethniki in the past three years? He's constantly injured, can't keep a run of more than two games together, and has neither the temperament or skillset to be a DM. Rarely scored is a very relative term - I don't recall the team playing particularly well in any of his games. He is not the solution to our problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teke817 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) @Reaper - I couldn't disagree more ... First, Lazaros in the Euro qualifiers was the only dude that showed anything, played end to end and generally tried to create. Also, we were forcing those guys out wide when Kone and Lazaros both need space to be any good. I also have to admit, I was down on Petsos as a selection, but he's not a bad player. I would LOVE to listen to Skibbe talk to the SL managers tomorrow morning. Wonder how that will go ... Edited March 29, 2016 by teke817 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omonoia9 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 I want to echo the Kapinos sucks crowd. This is why Karnezis is the unquestioned starter despite being average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggica Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Aside from siovas being subbed off for Tzavellas, I didn't like the substitutions. Fine, siovas was carrying a knock/injury. But why sub off fortounis, torosidis, and karelis? Those three were literally our best players. Stafylidis played pretty well in the first half, but he was visibly tired in the 2nd. Tziolis got worse as the game went on. These 2 players should have been subbed off instead. Also, papazoglou looked out of his element. ..he doesn't belong in the squad. He only has like 6-7 goals in the Belgian league. Athanasiadis and bakasetas are both better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 At the end of the day this goes back to what have said numerous times, if we can't shut it down defensively and play as a defensive minded team we will NOT win against anyone good or bad. Our defense has gon to s%$#!. Every team scores on us. FI scored 3 goals In two games, Hungary scored 3 goals in two games, NI scored 3 or 4 goals In two games against us. We are s%$#! defensively and that's why we will continue to struggle unless we play boring defensive Soccer. I was hoping this was just a bad EQ campaign and things would change but it won't, not anytime soon. This clearly shows its our lack of talent and NOT the 3 coaches we went through. Can you imagine what Belgium or even Bosnia will do to us when we can't even beat Liechtenstein or the FI? No confidence in this team anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 ^ Absoloutley I'm done with those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tsamados Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Skibbe treated this like a training match with all those ridiculous substitutions. It disrupts any team cohesion and literally makes it impossible to get a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriskiato Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The only way to solve our defensive problem is to have 4 CB's and 4DM's! I am also glad I didn't watch. Australia is looking very strong. Annihilated Jordan with ease. So much passion and drive. We will get smashed!! Rogic has crazy skill. Reminds me of Zidane. He has transformed the team. I am tired of hearing that we should play to our strengths. NO point in having a solid defensive game if we don't put on players that can counter attack. Since when have we ever been successful with 3 CB's and now 2 DM's?? Soccer is so basic. Why are we always complicating things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 We also have to remember that we played with a completely different back 3 + goalie. This was probably the first (and last) time they have played together. He was trying to guys who are for the most part unknowns. He couldn't keep all the starters out but we can all agree that 8 of the starting 11 will not be starting come September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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