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Skibbe was in attendance today for Atromitos-PAOK. I can't speak for Atromitos' side, but he was clearly there to get a glimpse of Pashalakis (who have only given up two goals in our now 14-game winning streak), Pelkas, Koulouris (who had a goal and an assist) and maybe a bit of Limnios. This GK is on fire right now and absolutely deserves to be called up. It would be a criminal act if Pelkas didn't get included in the next lineup, as well. 

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14 hours ago, Boxou said:

latest reports say that aside of karnezis, the other guys that will be called up for the nt friendlies will be 2 of paschalakis, tsintotas and gianniotis. can't believe how he's still ignoring vlachodimos, as well as those 2 kapino and anestis basically ruined their seasons after a good start.

what happened to anesti?

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7 hours ago, Dean97 said:

Do you know where I can watch the highlights pash?

I posted extended highlights in the game thread on that forum. Not great quality

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On 2/2/2018 at 4:15 PM, georgelaz said:

Lazaro is half greek. Like Holebas. Not the same as Zeca who's not greek at all and Villafanez who's only 25% Greek.

Lazaros is half Greek? Is that stated anywhere official? 

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Skibbe should definitely give Mavropanos a call-up. If he can do it with Retsos at 19, a 20-year-old playing for Arsenal`s first team should be a no brainer. It`s important to adapt him into the NT culture even though it may be several years before he is a first choice CB for Greece. 

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5 hours ago, Argy said:

Skibbe should definitely give Mavropanos a call-up. If he can do it with Retsos at 19, a 20-year-old playing for Arsenal`s first team should be a no brainer. It`s important to adapt him into the NT culture even though it may be several years before he is a first choice CB for Greece. 

the only problem is that he only trains with arsenal's first team. he is playing with their u-23 side. 

@georglaz he was supposed to be leaving aek on january but it didn't happen so he will stay non active until the end of the season. what a waste.

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4 hours ago, Argy said:

Half German?

re he's half black. lmfao. Angolan to be exact. But was born in Austria. Similar to Holebas. Half Greek / Uruguyan but born in Germany.

Apparently it's too late now but it sucks cuz he's pacey as F*** and a great crosser/dribbler.

 

signed him to my PAO team in fifa haha.

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18 hours ago, pash said:

I posted extended highlights in the game thread on that forum. Not great quality

No worries found the highlights on YouTube.

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2 hours ago, Dean97 said:

What are everyone's thoughts on Vasilakakis? He is 30 but is playing very well. Better than Fortounis. 

He's playing very well as is Kyvrakides and Giannotis from Atromitos....they also have a couple of up and coming youngsters. Truth is that there are a few GSL players that warrant a look from the NT...beyond the usual suspects. Manias from Asteras is another who comes to mind.

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1 hour ago, AchillesHeel said:

He's playing very well as is Kyvrakides and Giannotis from Atromitos....they also have a couple of up and coming youngsters. Truth is that there are a few GSL players that warrant a look from the NT...beyond the usual suspects. Manias from Asteras is another who comes to mind.

I agree. Giannoulis is another player who has been playing well. He takes good set pieces. Risvanis has been playing well and is one of the reasons Atromitos have been doing well this season.

Lazaros Lamprou has been in good form as well. He is very good in one on one situations. He can finish when he has the chance. Hopefully Kourbelis has a good amount of minutes in the upcoming friendlies. 

Also there are not many abroad that deserve call ups. Donis and Karelis are the only ones who deserve call ups in my opinion. Hopefully Limnios and Galanopoulos get called up. 

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12 hours ago, Dean97 said:

What are everyone's thoughts on Vasilakakis? He is 30 but is playing very well. Better than Fortounis. 

what's the point of having a refresh if we're about to call up 30 year old players really?

 

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4 minutes ago, Boxou said:

what's the point of having a refresh if we're about to call up 30 year old players really?

 

Yeah true. That's what I was thinking but he has got something and lately he has been performing consistently. Pelkas is another decent option. We should see him in the team now that Mantalos is injured.

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14 hours ago, Boxou said:

what's the point of having a refresh if we're about to call up 30 year old players really?

 

It 's not an age factor...a NT has to know if in form players can fit into their plans regardless of age...you never know what can happen and have to be ready with options....especially if you wanna get rid of the TzioloTzavelloManiatides. Vaslakaki is 30 but never stops working, has the lungs to run all game long and has skill and a good footballing IQ. I'd definitely rather see him on the pitch atm than an anemic Forounis or uninvolved Samaris.

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2 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:

It 's not an age factor...a NT has to know if in form players can fit into their plans regardless of age...you never know what can happen and have to be ready with options....especially if you wanna get rid of the TzioloTzavelloManiatides. Vaslakaki is 30 but never stops working, has the lungs to run all game long and has skill and a good footballing IQ. I'd definitely rather see him on the pitch atm than an anemic Forounis or uninvolved Samaris.

Absolutely. If he is picked hopefully he doesn't play like Lazaros does in the national team. 

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Greek players as I mentioned before peak early 30s. When we won the euro our average age was quite up there age 29. 

Italy same thing with their world cup win

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/europameisterschaft-2004/durchschnittsalter/pokalwettbewerb/EM04

 

England is known for fielding youngester. SEe how that's working out for them? 

Experience is king in knockout round and short group stages where the margin for error is low. Composure is generally correlated with age imo.

 

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I do not get all the fuss about some players of Atromitos /Asteras and I think your memory is not decent at all lads.

Superleague is overall weakened. That is obvious from the European results.

Teams like Atromitos and Panionios have obviously stepped up their game but the League is weakened.

 

Honestly apart from Siopis, Pelkas , Paschalakis and Lamprou/Masouras I find noone else who should even be looked into from the GSL currently to become a regural pick of the NT.

Limnios and Douvikas too young for now. The rest are already fully developed and past their peak. Many promising CB but honestly why bother? Sokratis Manolas Retsos Mavropanos Kyriakos will all be above them in preference.

Friendlies line up that I would love:

Paschalakis

Bakakis Hatzidiakos Mavropanos Tsimikas
Siopis Galanopoulos

Masouras Pelkas  Lamprou

Mitroglou/Karelis

 

 

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That's not a bad line up Rockafeller. I don't think Siopis will make it in time for the friendlies as he is injured. Would like to see that line up. Maybe Kourbelis could start next to Galanopoulos. I'd also like to win these matches so I'd have Lazaros and Donis playing. Maybe Giakoumakis deserves a call up. But he has only played one good game. 

Limnios is the same age as Lamprou. I'd also like to see Mavropanos in the team but I don't see that as a possibility. Retsos and Donis are our future stars. So it's best they play the majority of these games. Kyriakopoulos for Asteras is also decent but Tsimikas is better. 

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I do want to experiment with a younger line up and new players which is a must in these upcoming friendlies but we also need to realize that wins are crucial for our fifa rankings and moving up..

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8 hours ago, Rockafeller Skank said:

I do not get all the fuss about some players of Atromitos /Asteras and I think your memory is not decent at all lads.

Superleague is overall weakened. That is obvious from the European results.

Teams like Atromitos and Panionios have obviously stepped up their game but the League is weakened.

 

Honestly apart from Siopis, Pelkas , Paschalakis and Lamprou/Masouras I find noone else who should even be looked into from the GSL currently to become a regural pick of the NT.

Limnios and Douvikas too young for now. The rest are already fully developed and past their peak. Many promising CB but honestly why bother? Sokratis Manolas Retsos Mavropanos Kyriakos will all be above them in preference.

Friendlies line up that I would love:

Paschalakis

Bakakis Hatzidiakos Mavropanos Tsimikas
Siopis Galanopoulos

Masouras Pelkas  Lamprou

Mitroglou/Karelis

 

 

 

AEK is looking good in europe though. Siopis isn't even starting for Oly though. Tachtsi has been a more key player.

But to see what these guys can do good point. Giakoumakis could be interesting but ya only 1 good game for AEK so far.

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will be interesting how the superleague ends. olympiakos is always looming to get back on top. AEK and PAOKs dominance has always felt shaky to me.

PAOK and AEK also have tougher schedules with a bunch of derbys coming up.

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Personally I think Skibbe has to look to replace Maniatis, Tziolis and Tzavellas.....also try to find a suitable replacement for Torosides who is getting on in years. Our attackminded midfield options are very limited so even a player like Vasilakakis or Masouras can have a place on the squad rather than wasting a spot on Maniatis or Tziolis who are both past it. Other players like Koutroubis and Kolovetsios should be replaced by younger players who can be blooded slowly. Add to that the fact that many of the usual foreign based callups are getting little to no playing time also opens the door to new faces. Skibbe needs to assess as many players as he can during the next few months because asides from the sure starters (barring injuries) in Sokrates, Manolas, Mitroglou, Zeca, the rest of the spots are up for grabs and should go to the players who are the most in form and are getting regular playing time. Players like Manias, Lamprou and Pelkas surely deserve to be looked at for the forward position ahead of Vellios and Diamantakos.

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