pash Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 And that's game. Very very disappointing. Seems last season never ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I hope they get their s%$#! together before the game with AEK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Bad result. 1. Dortmund - 3 2. PAOK - 1 3. Qabala - 1 4. Krasnodar - 0 Upcoming games: PAOK - Dortmund Krasnodar - Qabala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajewy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 ay looks like dortmund won last minute as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italosPAOK4 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 pali kala pou nikhse h Dortmund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Pash do you have egg on your face now? Haha im jist messing with you. At least you guys are in europe lol. Delicious, delicious egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 We must get 4 points in our next two games. I highly doubt if we can do that. I am afraid we will not qualify to the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 To write us off now is ridiculous, with 5 games to play. Yes we did expect 3 points from this game and we didnt get them, is it the end of the world? No. Qualification will come down to the back to back games against the Russians. In all likelihood we will need 6 points from those games, 3 from the home game vs Qabala and anything taken off Dortmund is a bonus. It is going to be tough, but I think we'll go close to qualifying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Kace's absence was felt. I agree with Tziolis, but Tzabella did his job. I think Pelkas needs to be brought back down to Earth. He's been hearing too much praise, and thinks he can just put the team on his shoulders and run with it. He can't. The kid is talented, no doubt about it, but he's not an elite player. We left 2 valuable points on the table....a shame. I'm not expecting a single point from Dortmund....I'm hoping for a tie and a win with the Russians and a win vs. Qabala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I watched the game. For me PAOK were two players away from winning that game convincingly. Tziolis and Tzavellas for me hindered PAOK. Poor passing, fouling, greed etc. PAOK should beat them easily at home however Tudor needs to find a way to speed up the midfield. 60% of everything coming to Tziolis turned into a scramble. He simply doesn't have the speed or skill for this level. Tzavellas was poor, but I don't think he contributed to that problem - unlike Tziolis, when Tzavellas got forward he at least was able to kick the ball. Tziolis gave the worst performance I've seen from him in ages. How can someone pass backwards so often? I honestly cringed the two or three times he found himself in the attacking third. He can't dribble, he was in completely over his head. It seems that Kace just makes him look good; without Kace we were weak. This was a great chance to put in Charisis to see what he could do. I'd take the ability to run over Tziolis's experience in a game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Pash, hopefully two things happen this season. 1) We extend Kace's contract. Do it already! 2) One of Chimirot, Sabo, Charisis, Antonis manages to take Tziolis spot in the 11. Sabo is playing fairly average at the moment, but he might just be trying to find his feet. Too early to judge him just yet. On a side note, is that now 2 games in a row that Olsen hasn't had a clanger ? Oh damn, I just jinxed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Olsen was pretty decent. That last double-save he did was nearly a disaster, but that would have been a Costa own goal. Showed some good reflexes there. I think Cimirot will take his place, although we are allergic to pace, then I guess Antonis has a chance. I think what will be most important, is to see who complements Kace best. As disappointing as I find Tzavellas though, Tziolis has just been so much more of a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Antonis is no Kace. He's technical and quite composed. Good vision. I actually don't think he'll suit PAOK for games where you expect to be on the back foot against better opposition. If you want a player to run all day and "hack" the opposition, it's not him. We'll find out soon enough how he copes with the step up. Australia does not exist lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 He doesn't have to be a Kace - from what I've heard, he seems like he's more of a Tziolis type. Slow and dim-witted. But if he can pass positively, he would be a marked improvement. -edit- meaning, him as a partner to Kace, not a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 He's definitely got much better vision and attacking instinct than Tziolis. He also gets into forward positions "naturally". The only thing that might work against him is his defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 PAOK doesn't believe in defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontos Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Kace's absence was felt. I agree with Tziolis, but Tzabella did his job. I think Pelkas needs to be brought back down to Earth. He's been hearing too much praise, and thinks he can just put the team on his shoulders and run with it. He can't. The kid is talented, no doubt about it, but he's not an elite player. We left 2 valuable points on the table....a shame. I'm not expecting a single point from Dortmund....I'm hoping for a tie and a win with the Russians and a win vs. Qabala. 100% agree with your take on Pelkas. The ability is there, he will mature and make better decisions with the more games he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Ha! So what do you do with Pelkas now ? We have a big game against AEK coming up. Do you drop him to the bench to let him know "don't muck around" ? Edited September 18, 2015 by Bananas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Good question. Hopefully pulling him off did some good. Speaking of which - for those that saw it, what did you think about Golasa? He came out like he had something to prove (which he does). Talk about staying on the team by the skin of his teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I'm pleased about Golasa. I thought it was odd that Tudor didn't want him in the team. He fit for the most part the Arnesen criteria of young and relatively cheap. I concluded he wasn't "hungry" enough. He was so so last year but I thought he should be given a second season to see how it played out. At least this way we'll know. Then again, maybe once Cimirot and Antonis get fit, that could be it for him. Might explain his attitude. Edited September 18, 2015 by Bananas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I think Pelkas NEEDS a player like Kace next to him. They complement each other. I think Mak needs to get back in a supportive roll at the wing. He's fast but he can't score for $HIT when he's in a classic scoring position. If he doesn't dribble past the goalie and walk the ball into the goal, or get a goal served to him hot on a platter, he can't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 I still think the 2 points we dropped might come back and haunt us in the end. I only hope that Qabala cuts points from Krasnodar as well, and then the 2nd place will be decided in our two games against the Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontos Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Pelkas definitely needs a ball winning midfielder next to him and that's exactly what Kace does, and he runs both ways, plays a hand in attack and defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italosPAOK4 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 We must get 4 points in our next two games. I highly doubt if we can do that. I am afraid we will not qualify to the next round. we need to win Krasnodar at home and take a draw away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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