nasl Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Playing soccer is a job Its about earning a living nothing more nothing less i have not seen many greek players with his skills over the years
Polikastano Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Israeli 2nd divsion cool story bro. Anyway might as well make it educational , what does Hapoel mean , i notice a lot teams start with this and also Maccabi ?? anybody have an idea?
Dean97 Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 We shouldn’t be making fun of our own player. Do you think he wanted to end up like this? I agree with @nasl his passing and skill were way ahead than any other Greek player apart from Fetfa. Ninis might be playing at the lowest level but that shouldn’t mean he is our worst player. If anything we should be backing him with any chance we get. I don’t like hearing sarcastic remarks about him. It’s not like Fortounis, Pelkas or Mantalos are proving to be any better for the national team. 2
Argy Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Dean97 said: We shouldn’t be making fun of our own player. Do you think he wanted to end up like this? I agree with @nasl his passing and skill were way ahead than any other Greek player apart from Fetfa. Ninis might be playing at the lowest level but that shouldn’t mean he is our worst player. If anything we should be backing him with any chance we get. I don’t like hearing sarcastic remarks about him. It’s not like Fortounis, Pelkas or Mantalos are proving to be any better for the national team. Dean, I agree. Despite where he is playing, I guarantee you he would not look out of place with the NT, especially in its current state. No I am not saying he should be called up, but it's not like our midfielders are setting the world on fire either. 1
Dean97 Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Yeah true. I believe he wouldn’t look out of place. It’s just his career choices and choices in general that have put him where he is. When in full fitness he would be more beneficial to the team. Edited November 20, 2018 by Dean97
Alphonse Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 Sadly, injured again and won’t be back till Jan 1
Ellada2004 Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Alphonse said: Sadly, injured again and won’t be back till Jan tough.. Sotiri had a lot of promise.
Ellada2004 Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 Ya its a shame... I remember watching him with PAO he had some tremendous matches and loved the goal he hit in Israel for the 1-0 win in the 2012 Euro Qualifier. 1
Dean97 Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 I think he is in the past now... Too injury prone and you can’t count on him anymore. Time to look at the now and future like Androutsos, Bouzoukis and Chatzigiovanis.
Argy Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 I dont think anyone fathomed him as the present. He is clearly the past, but I guess it's just interesting to keep tabs on someone that was central topic of conversations for mny years. At this point he will retire at 30. 1
J1078 Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 It’s a shame he had so much promise... even if he was healthy I don’t think he would have been considered for the NT.. Time to look ahead at the youngsters as mentioned by @Dean97
Dean97 Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 I think most Greek players peak too early in their career then the professionalism somehow fades. Eg. Koutsianikoulis, Fetfa and Ninis. Some haven’t like Sokratis, Manolas and so on but if you think about it the majority of talented Greek players show their talents at this age bracket of 18-23.
Argy Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 5:37 PM, Dean97 said: I think most Greek players peak too early in their career then the professionalism somehow fades. Eg. Koutsianikoulis, Fetfa and Ninis. Some haven’t like Sokratis, Manolas and so on but if you think about it the majority of talented Greek players show their talents at this age bracket of 18-23. That all goes to show that the youth talent is present, but club & league culture and training programs & facilities, all which translate to professionalism and development, are lacking in Greece. The most successful players leave Greece very young. Yes, there are examples of players leaving and coming back, some falling off the map, others thriving in the GSL, but, nevertheless, if a young Greek player wants to give himself the best shot at a successful career, he needs to develop outside Greece. 1
Dean97 Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Argy said: That all goes to show that the youth talent is present, but club & league culture and training programs & facilities, all which translate to professionalism and development, are lacking in Greece. The most successful players leave Greece very young. Yes, there are examples of players leaving and coming back, some falling off the map, others thriving in the GSL, but, nevertheless, if a young Greek player wants to give himself the best shot at a successful career, he needs to develop outside Greece. I definitely agree. I think players like Ninis and K.Papadopoulos were very unlucky in my opinion. Some just not professional enough. Even Tachtsidis who at 21 signed for Roma and showed quality and a lot of promise. Another would be Stafylidis I remember at 17 years old was PAOK best player in that Europe game against Spurs where he got sent off. I think it’s a very good idea Young talented Greek players leave Greece. Players who could have made more of their careers like Torosidis who was very wanted by top clubs at around age 25 but instead stayed at Olympiakos until age 27. All I can think of now is for our young players to get the most experience in a country with good football culture and training programs to get better is too leave right now for eg. Galanopoulos, Androutsos, Nikolaou, Tsimikas, Koulouris and so on should test themselves in leagues where they play constantly and especially in a learning environment. Your not going really far in the GSL. Hopefully players like Fortounis, Pelkas, Kourbelis, and Mantalos don’t start declining because they are all in the same age group and we could agree they played their best football a couple of years ago.
Argy Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 There is so much to say about Greek's abroad. So many examples and different experiences. Certainly the longer you stay in the Greek league, the better chance you stagnate. KPap and Ninis are different though. Injuries tore apart KPap's career, whereas Ninis' inconsistency and lack of development killed his. Lots of factors come into play for Greeks going abroad. No Greek goes into a foreign club with any kind of pedigree, as I believe that players from the GSL, and Greek footballers, in general, have to work twice as hard to earn the respect and confidence of managers. Also, as I've stated in the past, what's hindering young Greek players in General from getting a timely opportunity abroad is the fact that, for years, the GSL has been just good enough to keep their talent long enough to sell for a higher profit. Whereas, in countries like Croatia, where the league wasn't as competitive, would sell their players younger and cheaper to bigger clubs around Europe. And the results are in front of us.
nasl Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Sotiris scored his ( 3rd goal) for his team (02-08-2019) on a pk in the 54th minute ... game ended 2-2 tie... Edited February 20, 2019 by nasl
nasl Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 Sotiris scored his ( 4th goal) for his team (02-18-2019) on a goal in the 11th minute ... game ended 4-1 loss 1
Alphonse Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) At least he’s active lol Edited February 20, 2019 by Alphonse 1
nasl Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 Has become a free agent on : Jul 1, 2019 maybe we will see him back in greece
nasl Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Looks like he just signed with Volos NFC on aug 18 2020. 1
Dutch Eagle Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 And the journey brought him to PAS Giannina and now to Kifisia.
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