RED SHERIFF

Vellios is no option for this game.

dont worry about Knights...they have no aspirations...and they are situated amongst quarries.. yep...they own the facility which is worth millions..but thats only if you want to sub divide and create houses..otherwise it has no real benefit in any potential ALeague bid..

it is insulting to say MVFC have a South footprint.. MVFC are the anti Christ to real SOUTH FANS.. Please..these comments get my blood boiling...

apparently they raised banners re serb atrocities.

Bosnia are a good football team....and play good football.. I care little for the Serb brotherhood...rubbish.. However your coaches names is Mehmet you need to understand that Greeks see this is the eternal enemy..no sugar coating..you say people in Zenica won't forget what happened in a football game...but the people of Hellas will never forget Mehmet..

Bosnia are a good team..

there was also a big Aris fan who was Bosnian..he was also a big fan of Greek football and Bosnian NT. I think Bosnia has a better team than Greece.. and we will be lucky to get a draw.

welcome to the forum..I figured you are Bosnian. Glad to hear you enjoyed your time v Atromitos...Also glad to hear that you say Bosnians do not think badly of Greeks..perhaps times are changing..which is good.. I am not sure how the reaction was the last time Greece played in Bosnia..(2013) However in the 2007 match and the build up was very tense....and very 'political'

this was a new squad..and very young...as the next U21 championships are a while off. Do we know if Cyprus also played a new/young similar squad? or did they use players from the 'current' u21?

That's right he is a Bosnian Serb..and he has every right to support Bosnia..nothing treacherous about that.. also true the Bosnians are strong Turk lovers...(this will always be frowned on by Greeks)_and regardless if we do not want to mix sport/politics/history. There have been very strong anti Greek reactions when Greece has played in Bosnia in the past...all with a political and historical motive...(lest we forget)... To put it mildly Bosnians would not be high up on my Christmas card list..

the irony is that from that date Greece had great results and made a euro QF..And WC R.16

just another confused block head ..

Sadly with Taxi out...Skibbe will play the great man Tziolis if maniatis is not fully fit.. I see this as Skibbe's: ...............................Karnezis......................... toro....................K.Pap.........Sokratis..............Tzavellas ................................Maniatis.............Samaris................ Mandalos...........................Fortounis......................Karelis ............................................Mitro....................................

I doubt Genoa could afford him

I recall pre season when I questioned the signings of Djalma and co. I was told to go jump.. PAOK made good money from Lucas transfer to Arsenal and the sale of Mak...and did not buy wisely, or spend any serious money.. The squad looks extremely poor to me.... no goals v Qarabag over two legs....the team lacks true leaders and quality..

That squad will probably not get passed Bosnia. And will finish third ahead of Estonia, Cyprus, Gibraltar...a far cry from a WC semi or quarter..

vellios turns 25 in January, Giannou 27 in January and Papazoglou 29 in March.. In a football sense they are all in their prime.. Vellios at 25 will be around a few years more than the other two... at 25 he does not have enough improvement in him to pencil him in as a starter fir the NT post Mitro..

the everton move was a life time ago in football sense.. he did not do much in Denmark..and he was in a poor team in a poor league.. yes..he scored for Iraklis..but was nit good at times... I have not been over impressed with his form at Nottingham Forrest.. We need better strikers if we are to progress.. in world football to the level we dream of... I say forget about Vellios..I put him in the same category as Giannou and Papazoglou..

the point is we only have one proper striker..Mitro who goes missing at times... Vellios is a poor man's Mitro..who is slower, poor finisher and limited. I do not rate Karelis either..but he is our best second option...because he is more mobile than Vellios and can pinch hit in other positions to compliment Mitro if needed... In the ideal world we would have two killer wide players like Leto,Mirallas,Galletti, Djole....etc...feeding Mitro...and behind him Fortounis... .....................................karnezis................................ toro.........................sokratis..........manolas............(should be lloyd) .........................................taxi..........samaris............. .................................................fortounis.................... mirallas/galletti.................................................................leto/djole ...........................................mitro................................... THIS IS OUR PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diamantakos is a striker or nothing.... not LW.. Vellios is garbage..

he sounds like another eastern European nut job.. but I seriously doubt he would be dreaming of an austro - Hungarian style empire ?

the issue is the greek lao sees these things as 'democratic'..and 'their system'

I think Georgiadis was not polished enough... I think Kyriakos sounds well rounded, well educated.... We need to not let our bias of the family name turn us off.. Greece needs jobs, and vision... If Kyriakos can deliver then that is good.. the structural reforms Greece needs can only be implemented with some like Kyriakos...well connected, well educated etc.. Greeks are living in dream land if they think the answer lies in some mythical new wave of politics that will sweep the world and see capitalism fall . They are a bizarre bunch who to me are looking for answers/solutions in places they don't exist.. 1) reform education...make teachers more accountable 2)reform public service 3) make public servants accountable - give senior managers KPIs 4) cut red tape for business 5) smash closed professions 6) limit Union power to strike 7) allow foreign investment 8) fast track the legal system 9) restore proper law and order.

so...would you prefer Che Tsipara or Kyriakos as PM?

Nothing modern or European about this thinking... they have somehow confused hard core 1970s left ideology with pragmatism and reality..