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I honestly think olympiakos kai defeat arsenal,but they have to use the right tactics,arsenal weaknss is that they have never won a game sta xartia,which is thrylos strongest part of their game,with courage and bravery thrylos can devise a plan and win the game sta xartia.if you look at stats you will see that no european team has won as many games as thrylos sta xartia. thryl;e gera parto sta xartia.,kai meta fiesta sti thyra 7

It's actually very easy. I'd call some of the hard core fans (those who are ready to do ..jihad for their team) and ask them to wear Arsenal colors and then attack & destroy everything and everyone in sight..... :lol: :lol: :la:

All this focus on the "hooligans" is a ploy to distract from the fact that Kontoni was communicating with Marinakis.. You know, the the heroine dealing fat F*** who is NOT supposed to involve himself with Gavs FC. Wake up!!! And the cops are not "criminally irresponsible", they are "criminally on the take/work for the Gavs"... (Kindly refer to the head of security at Rizoupoli and what his position became after that war zone of a day...

Explain then why Panathinaikos supporters would cause so much destruction and chaos, BEFORE the game has even started, as to make it worse for their team by copping fines, deducting points and playing behind closed doors while benefiting Olympiakos by canceling the game and giving them extra rest for the Champions League. Explain, because I don't understand how you naively believe this is just "Green fans going crazy" because "derby", when under worse circumstances the game has played on and they caused no trouble. This whole incident was negative for Panathinaikos and only positive for Olympiakos. It's always this transcendental "violent minority" that causes problems, yet for decades, it's unable to be dealt with. And while every other club in the league falters and is destroyed only one remains "squeaky clean". Every year some bullshit happens that makes it extraordinarily worse than the previous year and nothing is ever done. And it's always this one team that comes out on top because of the Champions League money. In basketball we have healthy competition between multiple top teams, we can even win European titles, AND have a strong national team. In football the competition has slumped from around 2004-2008. No competition, every other team got weaker, the league got weaker, no Greek talent, and our national team is s%$#!. Yet this still isn't enough for major overhaul because "this is Greece", "this is the Greek mentality", "every team is just s%$#! except for Olympiakos". Maybe we should let the Greek Basketball Association run the entire f***en country then, including the Soopa Doopa League, or clean up this cesspool of s%$#! that is passed off as a footballing competition.

I hear you Athinaio, you make some sense, but CL is the big show Europa is not that interesting to most people IMO.

^^^can you show us some pictures also from the 2011 starting with the molotov ;)

PAOK fans the other night at their basket match vs Zenit:

Yup that is why the pressure on corruption needs to stay at the top of mind for all

^^ You remember well my friend Tsironis

Rejected a 2 million euro bid for Simoes and offered him a contract extension.

This is a great place to be, because, no matter what, the team wil have several euro games left. The gap between the rich teams and the rest is very wide. Only by some miracle lesser teams can break through. Yes, you'll make good money getting to the 16 for 2 games, but realistically that would be it. In the Europa you probably play more that 2 games, so even if the money is less you get more games and showcasing your brand in a greater market. This also gives incentives to good players to come to Oly and this shitty Greek league.

Pretty much...

Whilst I was doing a couple of helicopter turns to a Mitropanos song, it occurred to me that our defence when on song, with Manolas,Kyriakos and Sokratis on the pitch @ the one time, why not go 4 3 3 seeing it is more attacking and yet these defenders are talented enough, with Holebas with them, to defend so well. They may not be far off from their mojos as a unit. The 5 3 2 formation would mean the Jackson five, would have to run more to send passes to the mids, then the front third, which would get less service when they must adjust to a higher line often when required-na poume. Then they adjust to a 3 5 2, and lose the ball and the opposition wingers run around the back three. Toro would need a Taxi if he does any box to box stuff-pardon the pun. The idea of Oresti being the eldest is the way to go. Bravo Lazo!

We never do well in Europa, we have always done better in CL , plus you can't compare the difference in prize money, it's a joke. Tsoulou all the way IMO.

Me too. Kung Pao Chicken. :D

I'm actually really looking forward to the Arsenal match! I believe we can win in front of a packed crowd! Let's all look forward to the next match and keep supporting our team.

He missed mommy's cooking....and his horio is only 45 minutes from Thessaloniki, lol.

I have no problem with him being pumped up for winning. It's his first, and hopefully, his first of many.

very backward greek way of trying to justify the inexcusable... these acts of criminal terror have no place in Greece or anywhere else... what is this supposed greek mentality? some mysterious form of human life that no one seems to want understand...and a bunch of radicals claim to support..

Training

I say... F**K THEM!!!

Look, such games are expected, that's why you take care of the other games, as Oly has done so far. It'll come down to the game at Karaiskaki, which actually it's a great thing. Let the best team go forward. But, don't expect Arsenal to be the same team you beat in the first leg. Unfortunately, the gap between the very rich teams (like Arsenal) and the rest of is getting wider. A few million euros difference in the budget probably isn't the determining factor, but the gap is in the many tens of millions. The half a dozen big teams can spend for 1 player as another team spends for an entire roster. Even in Greece it's evident, when Indeye costs more than the budget of entire teams. As for your game against Arsenal, I don't know what the best strategy would be. Try to not lose or try to score at least once? Tonight, I thought your defense didn't do well, not because of the 4 but too many mistakes. If this is repeated, Arsenal will plenty of chances to score. I think you should demonstrate power; they must respect you (and fear you) since you beat them at their home. If you appear weak, they'll step all over you.