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I think you guys are missing a key point here.

The possibility of winning the league is nil at this point, unless we pay the Gavrous' bus driver to go off a cliff with the entire team on board. Then we still wouldn't have enough money to pay off the referees to make things go our way for a change.

We have to ensure we see European football before we start to get more attractive to players on the market, that's just the reality of the sport/business. And I'm sorry, but I never was convinced of Sa, and hearing about his disposition, we already have a resident c*** on board with Djebbour, so we really don't need another prima donna. First we need to offload the deadwood.

The other thing is, the January window is often the worst time to get players--players who have been traded mid-season often seem to have confidence issues because their teams offloaded them as good-for-nothings. Let's be damned sure we can get into the CL qualification spot, and then we can get players.

Thank you for this post. Totally agree. It also takes removal from all of the emotion to see the long term goals.

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I think you guys are missing a key point here.

 

The possibility of winning the league is nil at this point, unless we pay the Gavrous' bus driver to go off a cliff with the entire team on board.  Then we still wouldn't have enough money to pay off the referees to make things go our way for a change.

 

 

 

 

How much do you think Tiger is worth compared to Marinakis?

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I think you guys are missing a key point here.

The possibility of winning the league is nil at this point, unless we pay the Gavrous' bus driver to go off a cliff with the entire team on board. Then we still wouldn't have enough money to pay off the referees to make things go our way for a change.

We have to ensure we see European football before we start to get more attractive to players on the market, that's just the reality of the sport/business. And I'm sorry, but I never was convinced of Sa, and hearing about his disposition, we already have a resident c*** on board with Djebbour, so we really don't need another prima donna. First we need to offload the deadwood.

The other thing is, the January window is often the worst time to get players--players who have been traded mid-season often seem to have confidence issues because their teams offloaded them as good-for-nothings. Let's be damned sure we can get into the CL qualification spot, and then we can get players.

Without players we are going to finish 5th in the playoffs because we have no quality depth. Our players will be tired and we will have to start playing qualifiers in the beginning of July. We need players, just because we are out of the title race doesn't mean we shouldn't sign players. We still need players if we want to win the cup.

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I can see where Greekfreak is coming from with what he is saying and at the moment we are going very well, but if we get injuries then what? Say Aravidis and Djebbour get injured then what do we do?????

 

We need a couple of new faces to come in and bolster the squad. January there are players available we just need to bring in the right ones.

 

Then if we get to Europe I would expect us to spend and bring in a few attractive players. I will be in Greece September so hopefully will get to see us play a European game

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In this Mickey Mouse league, what difference does it make?  So Mel spends 60 million Euros on a team that wins the league (which would probably be cheaper to fix than to buy an actual quality squad), how does it help the rest of the league to have such a dominant squad made up of mercenaries and hired guns?  In my lifetime, I don't think I'll ever see a pre-Bosman league again where Greek players dominate the entire league, and that's sad.  Sure the initial quality of the football might suffer but at least it would give more communities a stake in the league, and hence more incentive to watch each game.  When ratings for games improve, you'd see more sponsorship, more sponsorship and better gameplay gets noticed in showcase competitions in Europe--talents get sold, then all of the sudden you have more Greek players playing abroad.  Greek kids at home try to work harder through academies bought from said sponsorship money, so they too can make it big.  A more competitive league is more watchable, and more marketable abroad.  If you had two Greek teams doing well in the CL, the Superleague would get a boost like you've never seen.  But that doesn't happen because of the small-minded, short-termed, corrupt bigwig in Greece who run the game.

 

The only way to hurt the Gavrous is to excel, and for PAO, PAOK, OFI, whoever else, that means you have to work twice as hard, commit as few fouls as possible, and still find ways not to create illusory penalties for the bought refs to call.  the fix is so far in the SL, it's partly the reason why I don't watch that much anymore, because the winner is always a foregone conclusion.

 

Money follows money.  That money the EPO pocketed after we won Euro 2004 went to bouzoukia, and the crap we've seen since then does nothing to prove me wrong.  How many academies could we have funded with that money?

 

I understand what you are saying, but that is not what I asked. You said we still wouldn't have enough money etc.. You have Tiger now, he is worth more than Pateras/Marinakis/Alafouzos and Giannakopoulos put together. He is worth over 3 billion. So the 'we have no money' ship has sailed and you should be happy about that. It is all down to Tiger's business plan now. To get where he is today - it is like all 6 seasons of the Sopranos added together - so he is not shy to grease the wheels so to speak. Tiger is not someone you mess with, should read his wiki page.

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Tiger is a smart businessman and has shown it with Aegean. I know all AEK fans myself included get frustrated when he doesn't spend and rightly so but he has a plan and im sure the signings and money spending will come. Look at Juve as an example, they took 5 years after coming back from relegation to get to where they are, it didn't happen in a season or 2 now look at them.

 

As frustrating as it gets, we as fans need to show patience, I say one thing to all my mates who bag him at times "imagine where AEK would be if Meli didn't step in"

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The thing I dont understand is that many aek fans say meli cant put any money into aek because of opap, now aek fans are complaining that he hasn't put money in yet, what is the deal? I think we have to be patient, I do believe we will be a very wealthy team in the future, we are being careful on our first couple of seasons back, we dont want spend more than what we earn and not achieve anything. but having said that we do need to buy a striker and a cb and we should spend at least 500K on transfers, I hope we do sign players cause pao have strengthened there squad and if we want to qualify for the cl we need to bring in some more players.

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AEK is stadium-centric like most Greek clubs. Get your own football only stadium and it is worth 5 good signings. The atmosphere alone will push the team through most games. 

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The thing I dont understand is that many aek fans say meli cant put any money into aek because of opap, now aek fans are complaining that he hasn't put money in yet, what is the deal? I think we have to be patient, I do believe we will be a very wealthy team in the future, we are being careful on our first couple of seasons back, we dont want spend more than what we earn and not achieve anything. but having said that we do need to buy a striker and a cb and we should spend at least 500K on transfers, I hope we do sign players cause pao have strengthened there squad and if we want to qualify for the cl we need to bring in some more players.

 

AEK are already the second team of Greece midway through your first season back just as I predicted before the season started. You dont need seasons of building, you just need that stadium and you will fly.

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Meli has said it himself that without a stadium we have on future and I do believe this is his main concern, hopefully once we get the ball rolling there the rest will come

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Meli has said it himself that without a stadium we have on future and I do believe this is his main concern, hopefully once we get the ball rolling there the rest will come

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Reaper I'm not saying to build our team to be the best top 2 teams in the league, i'm mean we will need to be patient to compete with oly for the title and I know a lot of aek fans who expected us to win the league the second year back. But after they have seen we have not spent any money they know they have to be patient and wait maybe a few more years until we can compete for the title

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PAE AEK made a huge amount of profit the past two seasons through OPAP sponsorships and TV deals. The OPAP sponsorships especially covered all of the costs. There is NO REASON not to spend 500k euros now on players to guarantee we make 7 million euros in bonuses from playing in the one Champions League qualifying round.

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Reaper Meli is trying to do the same yet faces m*****a hurdles each time we get an opening, really don't get it, a team who owns the land has all this fuss about building. The people of New Philadelphia want the stadium, the fans want it, yet the mayor is an a***** who's made it his objective for us not to build.

 

george21 next year "IF" he spends and brings in a couple of attractive names we may give Oly a better challenge at the title, this season I was always happy with Top 3 and Europe, next season we must aim higher

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Yup, they ripped Jeep off for 2 million euros for that one season I read. Unbelievable amount of income brought in. And they charged 200 euros for season tickets last year in the middle of a crisis. Saving money is not an excuse for this team anymore. It comes down to stinginess.

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The first season I read we were $7mill euro in surplus, last season wouldn't have been far off that same figure, if not more with better TV revenues and OPAP sponsorship. This season again would've been more also, so to say we don't want to be in debt isn't a good excuse for me. We only spent $160K this season surely they can do better than that.

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The ones we brought in were loan deals and free agents, ok some of them are decent players who have done well so far, we have built a decent side but now we now to add to what we are building.... I don't expect massive money to be thrown around but add to where we are lacking

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In Meli's fairness he has got AEK running as a proper club should be run, players getting paid on time coaches and management the same and not waiting 9 months for money, so credit to him for that. But we need to spend, we ALL know where we lack a CB and Striker is what we need most.

 

Maybe you are right Greekfreak and the players we want wont come, but we should have a Plan B if that's the case.

 

I just really hope if we don't bring in players we stay injury free, because if we get injuries we are F***ed.

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We are trying for Bruno Zachoulini on loan from Manchester City. He's a central midfield like Johanson, Simoes, Cordero, and Mantalos. Considering we play with 3 central mids, Cordero is always, and Anakoglou is not in Poyets plans, this would be a very smart deal if we signed him. We can't last the entire season with 3.5 midfielders for 3 spots, so a cheap depth signing for a pretty good player like this is smart. Let's see if they actually close the deal.

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He was a wonderkid on Football Manager some time ago when he was still in Argentina before going to a German team I believe. Would be a handy pickup. More defensive than offensive.

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I hate to be a Debby Downer, and if we were to get him I'd be very happy, but at the same time, looks like this signing would be a tad bit of a smoke screen. You've got two gaping holes on both ends of the field, the striker position, and the CB position, and you decide to get a CM. If he were to be the only signing we achieve I'd be disappointed. If not a Striker, we really need a CB. A creative midfield can compensate for a lack of a striker, as we've seen thus far, but the CB position is vital. 

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BUT you guys know how much I love to play with formations so why not. I say we push Barbosa up and let him play behind Arava in a 4-4-2 Rombo. 

 

 

 

 

 

------------------------------Aravas-------------------------------------

-----------------Barbosa-------------------------------------------------

 

-----------------------------Zuculini---------------------------------------

-------Mandalos-----------------------------Johanson---------------

------------------------------Simoes--------------------------------------

Didac--------------------------------------------------------Bakakis

-----------------Kolo----------------------Anyone-----------------------

------------------------------Anesti---------------------------------------

 

 

 

But then again Idk how I feel about leaving out Galo, Vargas or even Platella/Buenanotte (but they're not playing much now anyway)

 

 

He also plays right mid so maybe 4-3-3 if Johanson can play CB....But hes been doing great in his new role, so again not sure.

 

-------------------------Aravas---------------------------------

----Barbosa-----------------------------------Galo------

 

------------Mandalos------------Zuculini----------------

-------------------------Simoes-------------------------------

Didac------------------------------------------------Bakakis

------------Kolo------------------Johanson----------------------

-------------------------Anesti--------------------------------------

 

 

 

Again I feel like these types of signings add depth, but right now we need to fill holes. It makes me so mad, wondering how good we would be, had we gotten a proper striker or CB. 

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