SL–R8: Olympiakos - PAOK (22 Oct 17, 20:30 EEST)

[Blackhawk]

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MATCHUP:           Olympiakos Piraeus - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki
COMPETITION:   Superleague – Round 8
DATE:                    22-October-2017
TIME:                    20:30 GR  (17:30 GMT, 12:30 CDT, 04:30 AEDT next day)
CITY/STADIUM:  Piraeus - G. Karaiskakis Stadium (Capacity: 32,115)
REFEREES:           Georgios Kominis (Thesprotia) - Damianos Eleftheriadis (Pieria), Tryfon Petropoulos (Arkadia)
TELEVISION:        Novasport 1 (Greece, Cyprus), Sport Plus (USA/Canada/Australia)

Olympiakos vs. P.A.O.K.  history:    

Superleague

2016-2017:  2:1 (6. Varela) - Attendance: 24,727
2015-2016:  1:0 - Attendance: 29,576
2014-2015:  1:2 (43. Athanasiadis, 49. Pereyra) - Attendance: 28,525
2013-2014:  4:0 - Attendance: 27,189
2012-2013:  0:0 - Attendance: 28,417
2011-2012:  2:1 (24. Balafas) - Attendance: 28,772
2010-2011:  3:0 - Attendance: 30,275
2009-2010:  0:1 (33. Ivic) - Attendance: 15,829  (PLAYOFFS)
2009-2010:  0:1 (20. Edinho) - Attendance: 26,139
2008-2009:  2:0 - Attendance: 29,482
2007-2008:  2:1 (42. Konstantinidis) - Attendance: 28,077
2006-2007:  2:0 - Attendance: 29,140
2005-2006:  1:2 (65. Konstantinidis, 70. Konstantinidis) - Attendance: no fans (The first loss for Olympiakos in the new Karaiskaki Stadium)

Alpha Ethniki (Professional)

2004-2005:  5:1 (65. Salpiggidis) - Attendance:  26,792
2003-2004:  1:2 (68. Salpiggidis, 87. Spasic) - Attendance:  9,164 (Rizoupoli Stadium)
2002-2003:  4:3 (35. Kafes, 60. Kafes, 72. Kafes) - Attendance: 9,518 (Rizoupoli Stadium)
2001-2002:  3:2 (54. Georgiadis-p, 57. Georgiadis) - Attendance: 37,825  (OAKA Stadium)
2000-2001:  1:0 - Attendance: 12,925  (OAKA Stadium)
1999-2000:  4:1 (76. Frantzeskos) - Attendance: 11,977  (OAKA Stadium)
1998-1999:  2:1 (3. Vryzas) - Attendance: 16,582  (OAKA Stadium)
1997-1998:  2:0 - Attendance: 32,275  (OAKA Stadium)
1996-1997:  1:0  - Attendance: 14,694
1995-1996:  1:0 - Attendance: 6,191
1994-1995:  2:0 - Attendance: 16,497
1993-1994:  1:0 - Attendance: 12,237
1992-1993:  2:0 - Attendance: 11,527
1991-1992:  3:2 (13. Anastasiadis, 87. Toursounidis) - Attendance: 18,004
1990-1991:  3:2 (75. Anastasiadis, 80. Toursounidis) - Attendance: 23,974
1989-1990:  4:0 - Attendance: 30,716
1988-1989:  0:1 (55. Borbokis) - Attendance: 74,232 (2,000 PAOK fans in attendance) (OAKA Stadium)
1987-1988:  2:1 (44. Lagonidis) - Attendance: 46,027 (OAKA Stadium)
1986-1987:  1:1 (67. Skartados) - Attendance: 53,720 (OAKA Stadium)
1985-1986:  2:0 - Attendance: 37,604 (OAKA Stadium)
1984-1985:  2:1 (89. Paprica) - Attendance: 57,581  (OAKA Stadium)
1983-1984:  1:0 - Attendance: 25,032
1982-1983:  2:0 - Attendance: 28,393
1981-1982:  0:0 - Attendance: 35,450
1980-1981:  1:0 - Attendance: 35,500
1979-1980:  2:0 - Attendance: 34,470

Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional)

1978-1979:  1:0 - Attendance: 27,704
1977-1978:  0:0 - Attendance: 15,714
1976-1977:  2:0 - Attendance: 39,200
1975-1976:  0:4 (24. Terzanidis, 56. Koudas, 72. Koudas, 78. Guerino) - Attendance: 39,030
1974-1975:  3:2 (4. Sarafis, 88. Sarafis) - Attendance: 39,210  (After the game 500 Olympiakos fans attacked the bus carrying PAOK players injuring Pellios, Tsiligris, Sarafis and Paridis)
1973-1974:  3:0 - Attendance: 41,110
1972-1973:  1:0 - Attendance: 41,052
1971-1972:  1:1 (76. Apostolidis) - Attendance: 37,405
1970-1971:  1:0 - Attendance: 34,960
1969-1970:  1:1 (24. Afentoulidis) - Attendance: ?
1968-1969:  3:0 - Attendance: 21,116
1967-1968:  0:1 (32. Afentoulidis) - Attendance: 28,914
1966-1967:  3:2 (67. Afentoulidis, 80. Charalambidis) - Attendance: 40,250
1965-1966:  2:0 - Attendance: 28,042
1964-1965:  5:2 (41. Koudas, 80. Litopoulos) - Attendance: 15,951
1963-1964:  2:0ff - Attendance: 24,796 (Nea Filadelfia Stadium) (Olympiakos wins 2:0 on forfeit as PAOK abandoned the game in the 34^th minute, when Bulgarian referee Rumencev did not call a penalty on a handball inside Olympiakos box)
1962-1963:  3:2 (5. Savvidis, 67. Giakoumis) - Attendance: ?
1961-1962:  6:0 - Attendance: ?
1960-1961:  1:1 (90. Vasiliadis) - Attendance: 25,000
1959-1960:  1:2 (38. Leandros, 44. Havanidis) - Attendance: 11,972

Panhellenic Championship

1958-1959:  4:0 - Attendance: ?
1957-1958:  0:1 (3. Havanidis) - Attendance: ?
1956-1957:  4:0 - Attendance: ?
1955-1956:  0:0 - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1954-1955:  1:0 - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1953-1954:  1:0 - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1947-1948:  2:1 - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1936-1937:  2:0 - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1935-1936:  4:3 (7. Kalogiannis, 22. Kalogiannis, 30. Vafiadis) - Attendance: ?  (Leoforo Alexandras Stadium)
1931-1932:  2:3 (8. Kavourmatzis, 89. Papaiordanidis)- Attendance: ?  (Neo Falyro Podylatodromio)
1930-1931:  3:1 - Attendance: ? (Neo Falyro Podylatodromio)

GAMES: 70    WINS: 10    TIES: 8    LOSSES: 52

[pash]

A win here would be absolutely massive. Let's hope Oly is suitably exhausted from their Barcelona ass whupping from midweek.

[Blackhawk]

Olympiakos is leaving 3 or 4 starters behind in Piraeus for the Barcelona game. Their 10m platform diver though is making the trip.

[Yiankos]

Let's see what our team will show.

We have lost from Olympiakos (and PAO, AEK) with every possible way. If we manage a win or at least a tie this will show for the first time that we are seriously going for the championship.

[italosPAOK4]

pare to diplo PAOKARAAAAAAAAAA na pame gia to prwta8lhma leme !

[Blackhawk]

This is not really the game (or any of the derbies for that matter) that decide the championships. It's the results against the "smaller" teams that do. And this season we already dropped 6 points against such teams. As a result of this we need to get some of those points back. Beating Olympiakos and AEK away will surely make up for the lost points.

Will be interesting to see what lineup Lucescu will field in this game. Seeing some of the Olympiakos games this season, their defense is quite suspect. They are good in the air, but if the ball stays on the ground with quick passes we can unlock their defense. Because of this if I was Lucescu I would consider keeping Prijovic on the bench and going with some speed upfront (Mak, Vierinha, Pelkas). I would also start with Biseswar as dekari.

[pash]

It would be ballsy of him to sit Prijovic...

[Bananas]

i think Prijovic will start due to the fact that he also helps a lot defensively with his height.

[pash]

I think much of the lineup selects itself.

 

                           --Rey--

--Matos--Zambrano--Crespo--Leovac--

             --Mauricio--xx

--Vieirinha--         xx                       xx

                      --Prijovic--

 

Those last three spots could go one of a few ways. Personally, I'd play Mak at LW and Cimirot next to Mauricio - this is, after all, the exact kind of game he would excel in. For me, Biseswar is still by far our best AM and should start there. And if not him, then Pelkas. Lucescu, however, is unlikely to really change the lineup much...so I bet we'll see El Kaddouri in the middle with Pelkas at LW.

I think all of those players will make an appearance either way, barring unforeseen injuries.

Can't wait for this Sunday.

[Blackhawk]

Not sure if Campos is 100%, but he sure could be helpful in this game, but that would mean playing in Vierinha's spot. It's obvious Vierinha is not quite ready. He has been a disappointment so far if you ask me, but I don't see him not starting. He knows what these games are all about. I would play Cimirot along with Mauricio. I too think Biseswar should get a start, but we know he won't. I think pash's xx's will be Cimirot, El Kaddouri and Pelkas.

[Blackhawk]

Georgios Kominis is the ref for the game. This guy is anti-PAOK, with severe complex when he calls our games. There are several games where he screwed us. We will need to be careful not to accumulate cards early in the game.

[pash]

I do agree that Campos would be good for this game, better than Vieirinha - but considering that he hasn't even been making the bench, it's clear that Vieirinha will get the start.

[Blackhawk]

10,000 fans at today's practice at Toumba:

 

[paokarag4]

pretty cool and great for this year's signings to have that experience. Hopefully we get a positive result on sunday

[kozi]

On 18/10/2017 at 6:30 AM, pash said:

It would be ballsy of him to sit Prijovic...

... or downright stupid

[Bananas]

I'll take a draw for this game.  Curious to see how we play.  Last season we took the game to them in Athens.  We lost but we played well and didn't just sit 10 players behind the ball.

Do any sports bet sites take bets on Fortounis getting a penalty after the 80th minute ?

The fixtures coming up will show us where the team is at.   So far it's been easy games.  Olympiakos, AEK, Panionios away in the next 5 rounds.

Edited October 20, 2017 by Bananas

[pash]

Asteras and Atromitos at home in that run of games will also be no walkover. A good showing across these games will let us know if the team is championship material.

[Bananas]

Add to that Xanthi away, which is always a tough game, and PAO at home who regardless of their financial issues will always give us a tough game.  All in all it's going to be very interesting between now and the winter break.

[pash]

For sure.

I'm reading that Oly will have some absences, but I don't think any vital players for them. I also saw yesterday that their stadium was nearly sold out. Hopefully there will be some crowd trouble.

[Blackhawk]

I am fairly sure we will score in this game. The question is if we can limit their offensive threat. We also need to keep our composure and not retaliate. I am sure that they will play physical game and with the help of the ref they will get away with it. 

[pash]

People who look like they'd retaliate: Zambrano, Pelkas, Mak, Matos. Hopefully Lucescu is giving them some lessons in:

[Bananas]

Oh God ... Matos ha ha.  Yeah he'll need to keep his composure and keep those elbows out of people's faces.

[paokarag4]

agree the south american lads at the back are fiery, there will be the standard spot fires that break out, hopefully our boys can contain themselves and don't go too far 

[pash]

7 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

I am fairly sure we will score in this game.

You know what's funny is I didn't even consider that we wouldn't score. I figured we'd get at least one; only question is if it'll be enough.

I know, lots of big talk from me considering how awful our away form is.

[pash]

Here's the list of players heading to Athens:

Ρέι, Πασχαλάκης, Λέοβατς, Μάτος, Κρέσπο, Μαλεζάς, Σαμπράνο, Βαρέλα, Σάχοφ, Μαουρίσιο, Κάνιας, Τσίμιροτ, Πέλκας, Μπίσεσβαρ, Βιεϊρίνια, Κάμπος, Ελ Καντουρι, Μακ, Πρίγιοβιτς

No real surprises here, apart from maybe Limnios. Siambanis, Kace, Deligiannidis not included in the squad as well. Good to see Campos and Varela in the list.