Rockafeller Skank Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, Molon Lave said: I think the odds of Greece going to the playoffs is very slim, even if they beat Cyprus and Bosnia held to Belgium. The odds are equal to Sweden/Netherlands and Ireland. Ireland is in deeper shitte if thye finish 2nd tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 As it stands right now our group which is group h has the worst of the 2nd place team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I can't believe we are in this situation where even if we scrape into 2nd in our group it still may not be enough to go to the playoffs. How could we not come away with a win vs Estonia, we see these minnows sometimes manage to get results as Luxembourg did vs France, but at least France generated chance after chance. Greece had what 2 shots on target and the best chance was Manolas header in the box of a free kick. What did our forwards and attacking midfielders do? It was a listless performance in the most vital game, a win vs Estonia would have us in playoff spot regardless of what happened vs Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 we don't need to go into details on what happened to previous games, a lot of ifs there. (if kapino had saved lukaku's 90min goal, if mantalos had scored in the fast break against bosnia, if we had beaten estonia etc etc) the point is that there are 3 groups at the moment which can easily miss the playoffs with REASONABLE results. no need to be desperate and hopeless since the other groups should worry more about that. for example we have just to beat cyrpus and gibraltar while bosnia to drop points to one of belgium and estonia..ireland-wales are playing each other in that group, so do netherlands against sweden and scotland against slovakia and slovenia. all are direct competitors for the 2nd place and could easily missed as it's been pointed out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockafeller Skank Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ellada2004 said: I can't believe we are in this situation where even if we scrape into 2nd in our group it still may not be enough to go to the playoffs. How could we not come away with a win vs Estonia, we see these minnows sometimes manage to get results as Luxembourg did vs France, but at least France generated chance after chance. Greece had what 2 shots on target and the best chance was Manolas header in the box of a free kick. What did our forwards and attacking midfielders do? It was a listless performance in the most vital game, a win vs Estonia would have us in playoff spot regardless of what happened vs Belgium. why didnt u post this when Bosnia generated chance after chance against us in Athens, but yet they failed to win us? You only see this based on what suits you. We lost 2 points vs Estonia when Bosnia lost 3 to Cyprus. We could have lost 1 point vs Bosnia and having this campaign ended from matchday 6. Edited September 6, 2017 by Rockafeller Skank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Rockafeller Skank said: why didnt u post this when Bosnia generated chance after chance against us in Athens, but yet they failed to win us? You only see this based on what suits you. We lost 2 points vs Estonia when Bosnia lost 3 to Cyprus. We could have lost 1 point vs Bosnia and having this campaign ended from matchday 6. No we did get fortunate to get a late draw in that game for sure. Things have started to go against us in Belgium when Lukaku scored in the 89 th minute. Then in Bosnia, Mandalos misses a sitter for a sure victory. At home vs Belgium the team deserved at least a draw, the only stinker as I said came last Thursday vs Estonia. Greece should be sitting in 2nd spot with 18 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 finally got to watch the game. we deserved to get at least a point imo. our best players = staf, donis, zeca, manolas our worst = tziolis, samaris I think our CM/CDM combo should be kpaps and tachtsidis going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Jose's goal and great form in both matches should allow him to start next match Lazo. Samaris does Not have a mortgage on a Greece jumper either, I agree about him. Taxi should be in CM Edited September 13, 2017 by ausgreek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 18 hours ago, georgelaz said: finally got to watch the game. we deserved to get at least a point imo. our best players = staf, donis, zeca, manolas our worst = tziolis, samaris I think our CM/CDM combo should be kpaps and tachtsidis going forward. We definitely deserved a point here. Belgium's first goal no one closed in on Vertonghen, the 2nd goal was a great cross and a beautiful header by Lukaku though Sokratis could have marked him closer. I watched the Estonia game and it was just awful and was disappointed to hear Skibbe interviewed after on the field saying how he was happy with a point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 it was Samaris's job to close down Vertonghen. the Belgians recognized that our defense was hard to crack so they were taking outside box shots with their cb's as a coping strategy and our s%$#! cdm duo was exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ya Samaris did not run up to close him down. Key moment was when Stafs shot was saved by Courtois and then hit the bar. Had that gone in and they get to HT up I believe they win the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Hmm, I noticed I don't get lovehearts..not in the loveheart club..going to colour my hair like Messi does, so there! Edited September 14, 2017 by ausgreek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 There you go Ausgreek. Don't think you wanna try the messi hair look, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I was going to do the beard and tattoos next. Bravo boythes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just thought this was entertaining from Gazetta.gr. The value of the players capped in Greece-Belgium on Sep 3: ΕΛΛΑΔΑ: Καρνέζης: 4 εκατ. ευρώ Μανιάτης: 1 εκατ. ευρώ Σωκράτης Παπασταθόπουλος: 28 Μανωλάς: 30 Τζαβέλλας: 1,75 Σάμαρης: 8 Ζέκα: 2,5 Τζιόλης: 800.000 Σταφυλίδης: 4,5 Φορτούνης: 9 Δώνης: 1,25 ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ: Λυκογιάννης: 1,75 Μπακασέτας: 1 Βέλλιος: 1,25 ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 94 ΕΚΑΤ. 800 ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΕΥΡΩ ΒΕΛΓΙΟ: Κουρτουά: 40 εκατ. ευρώ Βερτόνγκεν: 28 Αλντερβάιρελντ: 35 Βερμάλεν: 3 Ντεμπελέ: 18 Μενιέ: 9 Φελαϊνί: 12 Καράσκο: 40 Ντε Μπρόινε: 65 Μερτένς: 28 Λουκάκου: 60 ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ: Ντεντόνκερ: 15 Τσαντλί: 15 Εντέρ Αζάρ: 75 ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 443 ΕΚΑΤ. ΕΥΡΩ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoOle Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Argy said: Just thought this was entertaining from Gazetta.gr. The value of the players capped in Greece-Belgium on Sep 3: ΕΛΛΑΔΑ: Καρνέζης: 4 εκατ. ευρώ Μανιάτης: 1 εκατ. ευρώ Σωκράτης Παπασταθόπουλος: 28 Μανωλάς: 30 Τζαβέλλας: 1,75 Σάμαρης: 8 Ζέκα: 2,5 Τζιόλης: 800.000 Σταφυλίδης: 4,5 Φορτούνης: 9 Δώνης: 1,25 ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ: Λυκογιάννης: 1,75 Μπακασέτας: 1 Βέλλιος: 1,25 ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 94 ΕΚΑΤ. 800 ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΕΥΡΩ Nice info; I can say that Δώνης is undervalued; Σάμαρης overvalued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argy Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 We were missing Mitroglou and Papadopoulos which is easily a combined 30m. Sokratis is a little undervalued, probably due to his age. The Belgians are great but some of their price tags are a little inflated due to their club and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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