Soprano76

This election cycle is shaping up to have a crowded field... though I can't say I agree with people like Beto, who have yet to hold major public office, running for President. Some things that I think the majority of Americans support: universal healthcare, climate action, tighter gun control, net neutrality, and pushing big money out of politics. But how will you get any of this to resonate in flyover country? The electoral college quite clearly complicates things.

Greece are in terrible form with bad players. They have struggled to put more than one goal past teams like Estonia for a few years now. Players are barely doing anything for their clubs... Mitroglou is washed, Donis is a bench player on a relegation level Bundesliga side, etc. We may have tied them last game in Bosnia but the time before that in WC 2014 qualifying Greece was pummeled. I won't expect much from the Ethniki, either now or in the future. 2004-2014 was anomaly.

I won't be surprised if Bosnia knocks the doors off of Greece.

Bravo to Siopis and Valerianos.. I imagine it's been some time since an Aris player was called up to the Ethniki

As unpopular as Trump is, being the incumbent gives him a huge advantage. Not to mention the people who have stuck with him until now will ride the ship until it sinks.

PAOK benefits from a strong Aris and vice versa. The self destructive nature of Greeks throughout history never ceases to amaze me lol.

Seems like PAOK have sealed the protathlima this season... bravo paidia!

AEK are looking to repeat as Basketball Champions League winners. They also won an international club competition as well.. didn't know AEK had such a strong basketball club..

It's amazing to me that the EPO has not really invested any of the money from the major tournaments Greece played in from 2004-2014. Weren't there rumors of a national academy building built?

Apparently they are certain to be relegated due to match fixing. Will be on -6 points at the start of next year too.

I'm gonna pass on Durmisaj and even Vrousai

Oraia bala apo ton Ari simera...

Was that a goal?!

thank you!

link?

agree, team has been turning over too much in recent years... some consistency would be nice

Should be interesting. Do you think the quality of the Cypriot league has gotten better or worse these last few years?

Good result from Aris. Still in contention for a European spot, which IMO is great given that this is their first season back.

Superleague campaign has been great this season. Champions League qualifications went well. Europa League was a disaster.

I suppose that's fair. Although PAOK is my favorite Greek team, I'm not the die hard that most people on this forum would consider themselves. I'm the type that places the health of Greek football overall above all else. Say what you will for past ills, but Olympiakos are one of the few teams in Greece that can be somewhat competitive in Europe. Besides, it helps out PAOK at the end of the day; a better country co-efficient eases the road to the CL group stages.

@Nilaul PAOthegreat linked it in his edited comment. I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. From the perspective of someone who wants to see Greek football clubs succeed in Europe, it is probably best that OLY gets the 2nd CL spot given that they will probably do more with that opportunity.

That is a good point, but I suppose to provide a simple answer to the question we could ask ourselves this: how many owners of Greek clubs will leave the organizations in a better situation than when they found it? I can really only think of like two or three owners where this is the case.

kind of random, but who do you guys think some of the best and worse owners in the Supa League are? I've been watching these documentaries put out a few years of all the teams in the top flight and Panaitolikos' owner Foti Kostoulas stood out to me as someone who's done a lot for the team and city of Agrinio, almost like a mini-Savvidis in a way. I'd have to say the world right now is Kougias given what he is doing to AEL Larissa at the moment.

Neat little documentary I found on PAS Gianena that was made a few years back:

Any word on the Thai? I'm assuming the deal fell thru.