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Pelkas i dont believe it.............

We defs have another goal in us, both teams are very open. Need Jaba to get some final product, Akpom has been quiet also (not his fault) Biseswar and Pelkas our biggest threats. I think we'll get our chances to score, we need to just be patient. Paschalakis has been massive need another big half from him and a little luck when chances fall Ajax's way and who knows

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!! BISESWAR!!!!

Lamprou must have some obvious flaws if a 2nd coach is preparing to loan him out. Without having seen him play really, my guess is his defensive side is poor to non-existent. His numbers in Holland last season suggest he's very good going forward, but again that's just based on numbers. I was hopefully he'd come back this season and be vying for a starting place down the left, we shouldn't write him off yet but given he hasn't been included in either of the squads for the Ajax games suggests he might be on his way out.

UEFA don't care about fair. It's all about $$$. What gives them more viewership the 3rd placed team in England (Chelsea) or the champions of Latvia? The issue is these clubs hold all the power now. They are so big as brands that wherever they go the fans and viewership will follow. We've all heard of the rumored "European super league" where all the powerhouses clubs are going to breakaway and form their own league. This is just UEFA trying to keep these big clubs happy and ultimately the small clubs suffer. I too like the way the old European Cup was formatted (before my time never got to see it) Just Champions from every UEFA nation and knockout football all the way. Brilliant concept. But can anyone imagine the Champions league with just one of Barcelona and Real? or one English club? Or just one German/Italian Club?

The loss of legs is a concern, but I think it's normal for this time of year. The other thing we need to keep in mind is that Ajax is a better team, we had to really push and play out of our skin for a half to keep pace and not only keep pace but have them on the back foot. It was always going to be difficult to maintain that intensity for a full game, like it lump it we are not at Ajax's level. Does that mean we can't beat them? Absolutely not. Having said all that, it's a decent result. Especially after conceding early to bounce back and put them under real pressure was a fantastic sign of character and belief the boys have. As others said during the game on another day we could've been 4-1 up at the half with those 2 huge chances we missed. Some misfortune and sloppy defending and we are made to pay, that's football. I'm feeling good about going to Amsterdam next week, we have nothing to lose and we've given ourselves a fighting chance at qualifying.

WHAT A HEADER LEOOOOOOOO

You'd think with Van't Schip at the helm now there's a good chance Pavlidis will get a call up. Not like we're spoiled for choice with strikers anyway. Great start to the season for him hopefully he has a break out year.

Easily could have qualified both times. Who can forget Klaus missing a bucket load of chances in 2016 when were 1-0 up. How that one in particular got away from us ill never know. In 2010 we had a classic Greek team in Europe lapse and conceded 3 goals in 10 minutes and that was that.

It appears it's going to be Van't Schip https://www.sport24.gr/football/ellada/ethniki_elladas/ethnikh-proponhths-o-fan-sip-texnikoi-dieythyntes-kwnstantinidhs-fussas.5568953.html

You would think this signing officially stamps Kace's papers and he's out of here. Starting to have some real depth in midfield now. Esiti, El Kaddouri, Douglas Augusto and Misic. Wernbloom stared training fully today and with Maurcio to come back during the season. Is that too many? The 4 will probably remain as there is no guarantee in what type of shape Maurcio and Wernbloom will return in.

Jesus, the Dutch just won't stay away. Going to be tough, but as always I see us really pushing them. They've lost 2 key players over the summer De Jong and De Ligt. @Yiankos this one is for you. ΤΗΝ ΤΕΛΕΥΤΑΙΑ ΔΕΚΑΕΤΙΑ ΠΙΟ ΠΟΛΥ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΑΓΙΑΞ ΠΑΙΖΟΥΜΕ ΠΑΡΑ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ άρη !!!

Ok so the game is on, but they just haven't been able to get the stream going for some reason.

Had a decent run in the Eredivise in 17-18 which was his last job with Zwolle, finishing 9th. Didn't worked last season. Prior to that he coached in the A-league for 4 seasons which isn't exactly the pinnacle for a coach, but I remember him being highly rated in Australia and he left due to personal reasons.

Close to what you would think will start in the first Champions league qualifier. Did Giannoulis get injured in the warm-up?

We are being linked with Fabio Coentrao, the Portuguese left back formerly of Real Madrid. He is 31 now and a free agent, He obviously used to be a good player, not sure how he goes these days. He played 21 times for Rio Ave last season in Portugal so you have to figure that Ferreira has a good idea of what shape he's in.

Ferreira is live now

Mantalos and Pelkas provide some depth as a dekari, but they don't have the quality of Fortounis. What little hopes we had of turning around this qualifying campaign just took another blow.

The current when is yet to be fired, EPO either taking their time trying to find a manager that fits their cheap budget or are going to stick Angelo

Very disappointing by Stefano. Watched some of the match, he was quite poor, struggled to return Fabbiano's serve. Fabbiano is very short and his serve is quite slow by ATP standards so it was puzzling. He's had a poor month on grass, not sure why, it should be one of his better surfaces. He still needs consistency, still work to do. As you said Dutch, he'll drop a few places since he was defending points from the 4th round last year. Hopefully Maria can go on a run, her side of the draw is quite open.

I guess it's good we got our first choice. 2 full seasons at Braga he finished 4th both seasons with them. Solid result. His first season in charge he managed to get Braga to the round of 32 in the Europa league before being knocked out by Marseille (who made the final that season) This season they were bundled out in the the third qualifying round. He's young, which is a positive, won't be a dinosaur set in his ways. All in all it's a big ask, taking over a ready made squad that's already signed 4 or so players this transfer window, walking into a pre-season that you've had no say in designing, and Champions league qualifiers just 6 weeks away. We do have a lot of friendlies, hopefully they are enough and he gets to know the squad over the next month and a half.

Wow, I'm shocked. The last thing I expected find out waking up this morning. First of all thank you to Razvan, he came and proved many of us (myself included) wrong. He got to us to the top of Greek football again something we had only dreamed of for so many years. Because of the season he just had, he'll forever be a PAOK legend, so thank you Razvan for that you've been fantastic. As for the timing of this, he really has F***ed us here. 2 days out from leaving for Holland the whole pre-season has been planned around him and his assistants now they're gone. Whoever takes over is going to be up against it from day one, taking over a preseason he's had no control of organizing. Trying to get a squad onside who, may or may not be sh1tty about their championship winning coach walking out. What had helped us be successful over the past 2 seasons was continuity, the core of the squad was the same for 3 seasons and the coach for 2, we saw the results. Hopefully this doesn't take us back to the days of a coaching merry-go-round. PAE are in a tough spot now, Lucescu really has left us with sh1te in our lap

Mihaj and Meliopoulos have officially been announced by the club, both on 4 year contracts. Interesting to see whether they are part of the squad for the upcoming season or if they are loaned out. Can see Mihaj being the 4th choice center back now that Malezas, Chatziisais and Mihojevic are on their way out. Meliopoulos will probably depend on how many players we sign for central midfield.

Yep, apparently Standard Liege tried to re-negotiate his wage at the last minute and the transfer, for now at least has hit the skids. There's a good chance he'll be reporting for the first day of pre-season on Wednesday

Football has changed. You can no longer just sit deep and counter those days are gone. Teams like Armenia press high up the pitch and make it hard for you to move the ball from the back. How many turnovers did we see in the first 20 mins of the game? We move the ball slowly anyway, so the Armenian press made it near impossible for us to get out of our own half at times. It's like the Greek players had never seen a press before. Greece had done something similar to the Italians at times before we went 1-0 down and then it all feel apart (ironically we were left so open because we had pressed so high and won the ball back in a dangerous spot) I will agree it is strange we look so openly defensively, teams just cut through us. Probably a little tactical, midfield not shielding the defense adequately and perhaps the players trying to get a certain manager fired.