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atta boy pana97.... people dont, wont and cant understand gate 13 unless they lived it. PAO

Show him youngster!! Apo mikto kai apo trello matheneis thn alitheia!! ( we'll do a historical gate13 class for you on a later date) It's not gate13 causing the problems. It's the organized crime and corruption in Greek soccer. PAO has gate 13 as their [protector and for them to win the war gate13 has to be shut down. Anyways it's a lost cause with you...Big pockets and big pockets...You have seen many big pockets who want to invest in Greece lately?

Why do I have a bad feeling that we will not make any moves during this transfer period, except for Vellidis.

Costa! Now that's surprising. My guess: --Vellidis-- --Kitsiou--Vitor--Malezas--Tzavellas-- --Cimirot--Charisis-- --Rodrigues--Pelkas--Mak-- --Berbatov--

Yeah yeah yeah JVC. Scout over buddy. How little do you know about gate13, their past and present.

...since it's the Souvlatzidiko, I had a $hitload of souvlakia in Astoria last week. I mean a TON. They were good. Carry on.

SYRIZA told the same lies to win power as other parties/leaders before. Its ..bravado against the Europeans was a bluff and a costly one at that. In the absence of an alternative, Tsipras remained in power, showing that dishonesty and incompetency can pay off in the Greek political system. Defaulting and leaving Europe was the worst outcome, and everyone but the fringe political parties, realized it. The parties (outside the smaller fringe ones) would have to abide by the European demands. What Syriza could have done, realistically, was to revamp the way government and the public sector works. To finally modernize the state, the legal system, education, separate church-state, stop corruption. It failed in that too. They've been hiring their own adding more parasites to the cost of running the state. Now they're thinking of changing the electoral law to prevent ND from winning a governing majority. Same crap Andreas did when he was in power. Tsipras has copied Andreas perfectly.

Dude. most forum members will agree that Both mitroglou and Vellios can fit in a line up of a team used to just having torosidis crossing the ball to them from the air, i nstead of playing with the ball down. We dont have wingers, so why not put 2 CFs instead.

I think Vellios is more effective for our national team. At Benfica, Mitrogou has some of the best wingers on his left and right... without them he's not effective (very slow too). Vellios on the other hand singlehandedly carries Iraklis through the Superleague. He's fast, very strong, very tall, and has a hell of a shot. Also he's young, and it's important to invest into our youth rather than waste our time with Mitroglou who scores a goal every 2 years for Greece

Varoufakis held the world economy hostage. All he wanted was better terms on the bailouts. When the U.S was the domino that started the crisees in Europe, no one said anything. No one could do anything. Not even the U.S government did anything against those responsible. Many years later, what has changed? Greece/Syriza capitulated to the troika and we have the same amount of debt from the start of the crisis while receiving as much bailout money as our entire GDP. Pension funds where wiped out, savings, welfare cut, government services cut, government spending cut, economy still in tatters. All that happened was that private debt to external banks was paid by the troika/European taxpayer. Our economy is still F***ed and those responsible got away with it. All the bailouts did was shift the burden onto European and Greek taxpayers. The ones blamed where Greek taxpayers. Can't anyone see that if Syriza didn't change its tune the political power brokers in the EU would have implicated high profile oligarchs and politicians in this mess, throwing them under the bus instead of the taxpayers? Why else would Syriza change tunes so quickly? Either do as your told and accept the bailout, OR, we will lay the blame on you and gut you. Syriza went back home, the oligarchs and wealthy told them to cover them and they'll reciprocate by covering them in the media. Syriza held a referendum and still went against it. And people voted them back in! What does that tell you? That doesn't absolve Syriza of their actions of course. They still capitulated and threw the taxpayers under the bus to hold onto their power and wealth. What happens behind the scenes is the real politics. What happens in the media isn't politics. How can people still believe the media narrative?

Of course Greece cannot just build a fence like Hungary thanks to its geography. But the Greek government is doing very little to slow the flow and is often actually helping the migrants who arrive, to go on to Germany or wherever. The flow of thousands onto small Greek islands every day would not happen if they didn't expect to get processed into mainland Europe.

Thyra 13 will still be in Leoforos no matter what! They will move to another Thyra! That's all. Did kontonis think about that?

When Greece held the 5 aces the house gave us free alcohol and we folded. The house always wins.