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Interesting comments all round. When Donis is at his best he is our best attacking player. With in form Fortounis and Donis alongside we can be very dangerous. Pelkas should be in this team no doubt. I believe Pelkas could be better than Fortounis and Mantalos. That's a big statement I know. But I am seeing things in Pelkas that are vital for this team. Did anyone see in the last minute of the 1st half what he did? Estonia had a corner in our box and somehow in a blink of an eye he took the ball from the Estonian and ran the whole field like he was going to score by himself until the defender caught up with him. I like seeing things like that and I believe only he and Donis can do that unexpectedly. I like how Fortounis is playing now. Dropping in and collecting the ball. Making good passes. In that one on one he had I believe he made the safer or better option to shoot but I think he could have played that pass as he knew Pelkas was their. It would have been risky on the angle though.

After Greece kicked off the first ever Nations League campaign with a positive, yet unconvincing result, they are up against a more formidable opponent in Hungary. Greece is still favoured and should aim for the three points in Budapest.

I also did not like in long distance races where the last athlete after each round was eliminated.

Truth is we lost a lot of Aris members on this forum. The death of the old greeksoccer forum coincided with Aris's misfortunes that lasted for 5-6 years...... Many Aris fans turned their backs on the team and at the same time the old forum went down for good. The old greeksoccer Aris forum was buzzing with life back in the day....

Agreed, I think Aris should have its own section like the big 4 do. The Aris page has the 2nd most activity behind PAOK on this site

I have always ordered the games from Agona Sport for $7.55 and never had a problem. For under 10 bucks its not worth it for me to search for streams. I'm sure they will offer it as I just believe they haven't updated there website yet. I watched the Estonia game there with no issues..

For the first time in a long time I actually feel excited about all the new players coming into the team. Hopefully we keep the momentum going and are hungry to beat Hungary. ??

I would leave the back 7 the same as the first game. They didn’t give up a goal. Why change? They did their job. You can’t give up less goals than zero.

The DNC is the problem and not Trump? Seriously dude? Without wanting to defend the DNC, let's put things in perspective. The US political parties are much more democratic than most parties in western democracies, because they have ceded so much power to the voters. Let's not forget that a political party wants to keep as much control of their own affairs as possible. It used to be (and it's the case of most parties) that the party leaders decide who should be on the ticket and who can elect the next party leader. They were doing that until the 1970s (for the Dems) and 1980s (for the Repubs) when those parties opened up the selections process to the average voter. Any voter can chose a party to participate in (in some states a voter can decide on same day of election) a party's selection process. No fees, no formal application, no admittance requirements. How many parties do you know that they do this???. The super-delegates was an attempt by the Dems to keep some control.... the main objective of the party regulars & leaders is to win elections. Often the activist base is more radical (the more extreme elements of both parties participate in the primaries) and the may select candidates who are not suited for the general election. As for the Sanders-Clinton race, the super delegates did NOT play a role. Nor have they played a role in that to reverse what the base has voted during the primary season. Clinton got millions more votes than Sanders. No serious analyst believes that the bias of the DNC in favor of Clinton helped her; actually it hurt her once people found out, so Sanders got a boost of contributions, publicity, and votes. Looking back, some people today say Sanders could have beaten Trump, but back then Clinton was thought as a stronger candidate for the general election. I'm still not convinced Sanders would have fared better, because socialism is not yet as acceptable in the US. And, the majority of the Dem party was not behind him, not in the primaries, among the Dem voters who participated in the selection process, and not among the larger voter base that tends to vote Democratic in the general election. Mind you, I voted for Sanders...

@Argy given his injuries of late I’d say he was rested for the tougher match vs Hungary

Interesting comments My 5 cents Barkas - was a beast, very good at corners which is something we are not used to Lykogiannis - He is not usually that poor, has more to offer Bouchalakis - Perhaps I missed his many mistakes... the first 30 minutes of us doing quick passes and creating space really impressed my, he and Kourmbelis did so well there, need to see more of him. Better than Tziolis who nearly put an Estonian through for a 1-1 too Pelkas - does a lot of running that creates space for us, don’t underestimate this Bakasetas - yet another ordinary NT performance... Koulouris not much better

Well at least Tzavellas and Tziolis are not starting. Why is Mantalos picked over Pelkas and Lazaros? Anyway this lineup is better than what I had pictured.

No he is not. He's very sleek equating free speech with editorial control. The issue is not whether to prohibit him from uttering his garbage >>>> in the public square<<< but whether everyone (indeed private companies) have a right to not giving him a platform to spew his nonsense. Indeed Faux News exercises lots of editorial control (being a propaganda machine for the right) as to what they allow to go out. Carlson is a hypocrite just on this count alone. As if we are obligated under the free speech principle to give Alex Jones the Phantis platform.... Or, that.... (pick your religion) I claim the right to have access to your church audience to tell them that they're idiots for believing in fairy tales.

Trump is not the problem; the DNC (i.e. the Democratic National Committee) is. When Carter (screwed by OPEC, unpopular thanks to OPEC, and sabotaged by his own party) was defeated in 1978, the Democratic National Committee decided that the plebe that voted Democratic could not be trusted to choose electable candidates. In the future the DNC would choose its own super-delegates who would enable the choice of good candidates. In 2016 those who read newspapers read that: The super-delegates were 15% of the total. Therefore, if the elected delegates were Sanders 49% and Clinton 36% of the total, Mrs Clinton would have been the Democratic candidate. At the New Hampshire’s primary Sanders received 60.4% of the poll vote and Mrs Clinton 38%, of the poll vote. Sanders had 15 voted delegates; Mrs Clinton had 9 elected delegates and 6 superdelegates. Is that possible that the the D in DNC stands for Double-dealing? On October 30, 2016, the DNC interim chair Donna Brazile was fired from her position as a political commentator at CNN over e-mail leaks suggesting she had improperly supplied Hillary Clinton’s campaign with advance knowledge of debate-questions. Let us move beyond the lady Macbeth aspects of the DNC. How idiotic must one be in order to manage to lose an election against a pathetic bimbo? This demands great talent. Examples: α) Trump brags that he will bring the factories back to the USA; the DP claims that the new factories will use robots and the unemployed will remain unemployed. β) The DP is all for clean energy. What about the coal-miners in WV? Under the DP plan they will live longer because of cancer avoidance. Moreover, since they will have less money, their life-span will feel even longer. γ) In the US the members of every group live, on the average, longer than the previous generation. With one exception; low-class whites. To the best of my limited knowledge, the DP has no plan for them. My impression is that Trump is not the problem. The doctor Frankenstein that created him is.

Hudson, you’re not getting it. My point is that America has a massive (and I mean MASSIVE) social divide. The quality of life for a lot of people that voted for Trump, their general level of education, their income and outlook on life is limited. If you repeated what you just said (and I do understand it and appreciate it) what they just heard is blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah. You have Hillary who offers them nothing, big fat ZEROES. Then you get Ouga Bouga saying ME STRONG, ME MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER, ME FIX AMERICA while he beats his chest. Hillary laughed, the media laughed, the establishment laughed ... we laughed. And Ouga Bouga won. Why did she offer them nothing ? That I will never know. I can only assume because she (and the DP) thought surely they couldn’t lose. Hillary should’ve prepared better and been wiser and read the lay of the land instead of assuming she couldn’t lose. Her haughtiness gave government to Ouga Bouga. I dare say he can read the lay of the land better than her. Give the superficial masses the garbage they want to hear. As for the DP, they are no party at all, for if they were, Sanders would’ve been the candidate. But Hillary couldn’t have that now could she. Again, what has the establishment learned from this ? The next election will be interesting. We will see if this was a one off or if a pattern is emerging.

Dr Frankenstein indeed. Trump took everyone by surprise. Early in the GOP nomination process, when there were still a dozen or so candidates, the sneering and contempt towards Trump was something to behold. Fair enough, the man is an imbecile and who didn’t mock him. But by the time he’d won the candidacy, Clinton should’ve been very afraid. Instead she felt safe because Oprah was on her side. With her head comfortably up her ass she proceeded to lose to a baboon. Unfit for the fight, she lost the unloseable. A poor candidate who seemed out of her depth against Trump. Ridiculous and self entitled. But it’s ok, all those movie stars have your back so how can you lose. Trump is corrupt, a liar, delusional, a megalomaniac and thoroughly unfit. Clinton was just old and thoroughly out of touch. I imagine she still wakes some mornings and can’t understand how she lost. When you don’t know your own country, that’s what happens. Feed them cake indeed. Maybe spend 5 minutes with people who earn less than 500K a year. It’s all right, you can always wash the stench of the poor off you afterwards. I wonder what the establishment has learnt from this.