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We will win our group and we will play Tziolis and he will break our record of most caps for the Pirates in the near future too. Then we will go to McDonalds.

@Dean97 you're right I haven't seen the NT look as good offensively as they did in that game, With Skibbe as our bench boss we will not see that kind of offence again he is much more of a defensive coach that doesn't like his team taking chances which hinders our offence completely.. he plays guys so far back that when they get the ball there are way to many opposing players on him and he can't do much.. I think we need to utilize our wingers out wide more to creat space for our players... they can't be afraid to give up a goal as that hinders our attack so much.. Ever time I see the NT they like tight and stagnate... That's why we need to add players that have speed in our line up.. I'm hoping Donis really becomes a difference maker for us as the kid has wheels and can take on defenders, as does Fetfa, If Kone can get his game back I would love to see him on the team, I had such hopes for that guy after our last World Cup.. Fetfa,Pelkas,Mitro,Donis,fortunes,Fetfa mantolas and Laz all need to have significant roles for NT to be successful.. if Samaris can finally play regularly than maybe he becomes our instant starter at mid but for now I don't know who our mids should be..At the end of the day if Skibbe is any kind of coach then he play a system that takes pressure of our weakest positions that is mid but I don't have that much faith in him..Play 3 in the back instead of 4 and move up a guy...

I understand Androutsos might not be be starting material yet but I never said for him to play the 10 role. He is an 8 through and through. We are so limited there it's not funny. We have plenty of CDMs and CAMs. I believe Androutsos is somewhere in between. I hope he can somehow produce assists and score goals because he I the future of this team. I also agree about Fortounis being our best 10. But I wouldn't count out Mantalos yet and I also believe Pelkas will be better than both. @J1078 I know that match against Hungary didn't mean much, but I've never seen us attack and play like that before. We looked very hungry and looked dangerous with Pelkas playing and Stafylidis always overlapping and creating problems for them. We do need to find a balance though.

Tziolis is horrid file, xehaseto, no debate there are SL midfielders at mid table teams that are better

Literally 24 hours and fifteen minutes, but who is counting?

Yep, totally different. I think (and hope) Basha will be the new Lekbello. I've missed a quality DM like Garcia/Lekbello/Nafti/Prittas etc. and before that Ballis, Kouis etc. We aren't selling many season tickets though, and that's a problem. How are all those new players going to get paid????

Alex, my understanding is that Aravidis made contact but Aris was not interested. Aside from the players already on board as of today, Velez is expected tomorrow, the young Brazilian will probably join on loan from Udineze and one more player is expected who will surprise. Depending on how satisfied the coach is by the roster other players could be added towards the end of August since prices will drop by those still unsigned.

@Rockafeller Skank why do you think Skibbe keeps on picking Tziolis instead of choosing Kourbelis or Galanopoulos? I'd like to know. If Tziolis is used to slow the game down then he should come on in the last 5 minutes like he did against Belgium. Not play a full 90.

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I agree @J1078 wingers need to be wide so out midfielders can have space to run into. Then in defence they close in. Santos and Rehaggel were also defensive minded and we saw more success with them than Skibbe obviously. I wouldnt mind going 3 at the back it's just that who ever is wingback needs to have the motor of running the sideline continuously. I don't think we have someone like that. I had high hopes about Kone too. After that world cup the team went downhill quick. I had high hopes for Samaris too and instead the whole team dissapointed. All I know is Donis can become a threat for us. He must be in the starting line up. We just need balance like you said, but deep down I want us to have the balls to go forward and have more players go forward and create scoring chances.

Μόνο μην τους υποτιμήσουμε γιατί είναι σε πολύ άσχημη κατάσταση. Είναι μία ομάδα μεγαλύτερη από τη δική μας. Σεβασμός και όμορφα 2-0!

Okay I guess I needed to dummy it down for you since you obviously didn't understand what I meant... Thanks for clarifying that we are not on the team I guess I can unpack my bags now since I won't be starting the first game of the nations league..

He is just being passionate and I understand where he is coming from. He wants the team to be serious and focused about the nation's league. Let's create positive energy instead of negative. We don't agree with what Skibbe does but we have to accept that he is there and in charge of the team so let's speak positive for the teams sake. Let's be optimistic.

The matches involving Greece: Saturday 8 September 2018: Estonia v Greece (20:45) Tuesday 11 September 2018: Hungary v Greece (20:45) Friday 12 October 2018: Greece v Hungary (20:45) Monday 15 October 2018: Finland v Greece (20:45) Thursday 15 November 2018: Greece v Finland (20:45) Sunday 18 November 2018: Greece v Estonia (20:45) All times CET. All homegames at OAKA.

The League of Nations and how it impacts Euro2020: League A:12 teams; 4 groups of 3 League B: 12 teams; 4 groups of 3 League C: 15 teams; 1 groups of 3 and 3 groups of 4 League D: 16 teams; 4 groups of 4 (55 teams) -------------- Teams that top their group in League A go into a semi final and final to determine the UEFA Nations League winner in Jun-2019. Teams that top their group in Leagues B, C and D get promoted to Leagues A, B and C respectively for 2020. Teams that bottom their group in Leagues A, B and C get relegated to Leagues B, C and D respectively for 2020. One League A group has Spain, England and Croatia; and so one of these nations will be relegated into League B for 2020 -------------- UEFA Euro2020 Qualifiers: 5 Groups of 5 and 5 Groups of 6 (55 teams) (Groups A-J) Top 2 in each Group automatically qualify for Euro2020 i.e. 20 teams automatically qualify. -------------- Remaining 4 position in Euro2020 will come from League of Nations. How? In each of the Leagues A-D, the top 4 ranked teams that did not qualify for EURO2020 will enter a play-off in Mar-2020 with one finals place on offer per League i.e. a semi-final and final per League. E.g. if Greece tops it's group in League C and doesn't automatically qualify for Euro2020 then it will be guaranteed a semi-final play-off match in Mar-2020 with other top ranked teams in League C that also did not qualify. This means that 1 team from League D will make it to the Euro2020 finals. What about if all the nations in League A automatically qualify for Euro2020? Then, the top 4 ranked teams in League B that did not automatically qualify for Euro2020 takes the place of League A and then the next 4 ranked teams in League B enter a play-off for Euro2020. -------------- What does this mean for Greece's chances? We need to top our Group in League of Nations! Not only does it give us a 2nd chance to make Euro2020 in the event we don't automatically qualify, but it also means we get promoted into League B in 2020.

Zeca is 100 times better than tziolis and so is Samaris. Also, kone was used as a Cm for AEK at times last yr. Tziolis is at least 8-9th down the list when it comes to options at cm

@Rockafeller Skank Sorry to say bro but you are delusional if you think Tziolis may be our best option at Midfield...

I agree that we ended up playing two of the 3 best teams that were in the World Cup and if Donis and manolas were playing the game in Croatia would have been different. Now we might have not got a result but I don't think we would have lost by more then 1 goal which would have given us a chance in the 2nd game.. I don't see Skibbe moving away from Tziolis at all if he wasn't going to use him then he wouldn't have played the entire game in our friendly and he would have tried someone else.. I truly think Skibbe is still not that knowledgable of the Greek players because if he was there is no way he would continue to choose the line up he does.. This nations league will show us a lot and ultimilety what we can except from this coach going forward.. We can not continue to play guys that don't get regular playing time, and where we are unsure about a certain postion then you need to pick players with speed who can make up for their mistakes.. We need to stop playing guys that are slow and lazy like Taxi... lets see what happens but until i see changes with the call ups and line up selections then I don't except anything to change from our last campaign regarding players..

I think Bakakis is solid as RB and Toro at CM