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Nice logical post Soprano, also love the sopranos what a show!! Now just to fire everyone up again, let's take a walk down memory lane, shall we? Όπλα, ντου και ξύλο

Stou koufou tin porta, oso theleis vronta!

This is my take on it. Mauricio was not in the keepers line of sight and did not affect the play. You can tell a lot from players reactions and the keeper had no complaints what so ever and neither did any of the players bar 1 who made a fuss (probable more a release of motion than anything) and then when they all jumped on the bandwagon, all hell broke loose The linesman ran straight back to towards the half way line with his flag down, he had no intention of giving it as offside. In 'close' calls the benefit of the doubt should always be given to the attacking team. The officials totally f@cked it with the way they handled the situation and allowed the drama to build up. The main point is that they gave the goal, then were swayed by AEK's bench and players, then disallowed it, then started strutting about as if they were enjoying being the center of attention. We watch football to see the players, not some power happy drama queen with a whistle.

Correct, 5th largest fanbase.

Of course, that's to be expected. But, we have to ask a brave question? Why does it matter? Genes (DNA) don't carry cultural and historical memories. Your genetic ancestors' greatness (we never talk about their negatives) isn't passed as memories through DNA. It's the ideas, the civilization that you may feel proud of, but then all this is available to anyone. I don't have to be English to appreciate British literature, philosophy and science. Same with the Hellenic civilization's goodies. You, anyone can feel Hellene, or modern Greek, or love Greece, etc. Several ethnic groups rose against Ottoman rule. Many didn't speak (nor understood) Greek. I doubt that all knew about the Hellenic past. But, circumstances and geography made a nation out of these diverse people in the 19th and 20th centuries.

The referee on a Greek sport show after the game gave it off side, it's down to interpretation, it's a tough call, personally I think it's actually a goal as Bargas was at full stretch and we saw his reaction after it went in.

Haha, funny thing is, I showed it to a friend of mine that I used to play with, he was a goalkeeper [not a great one] but is now a referee's assessor who has just been appointed to assess the performance of referee's at confederation level [asian champions league and asian world cup qualifiers etc.] his take is that it is not offside as the goalkeeper is unlikely to have seen the player until his dive was underway, but he also said from where the linesman is the player would seem to be interfering so whatever the call is, the situation the officials found themselves meant their call would have been correct. hope my drivel above made sense.

yeah if we consider what he said something like that looks the most possible one atm.

Bullshit. As soon as the incident happened you have been saying that PAOK should be relegated

More exclusive footage of Savvidis in Toumba....doesn't look good for us guys:

The season was going good because there was a change in the EPO leadership, which was not controlled by Olympiakos as in the past. As a result Superleague became competitive and other teams finally had a good chance of contending for the title. Seeing that they lost control they decided to sabotage the whole thing.

dream on ! kai to fetino kai ta epomena 2 emeis 8a ta paroume ! MARK MY WORDS !