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Bet you they're going to make the update with another signing right before the game

The list for the matches vs Brann. Weird that Konstantelias is included. But don't know when this list was supposed to be dropped at the offices of UEFA. Παβλένκα, Τσιφτσής, Μοναστηρλής, Κένι, Χατζηδιάκος, Μιχαηλίδης, Ελουστόντο, Γιαννούλης, Γκόμεζ, Μπάμπα, Θυμιάνης, Τέιλορ, Καμαρά, Σανταμαρία, Πέλκας, Τάισον, Ζαφείρης, Άλι, Λουσέ, Τσοπούρογλου, Κωνσταντέλιας, Ζίβκοβιτς, Γερεμέγιεφ και Σορετίρε. Οι Μύθου, Μπέρδος, Χατσίδης και Μπαταούλας έχουν δηλωθεί στη λίστα Β, η οποία προς το παρόν δεν εμφανίζεται στην ιστοσελίδα της UEFA.

I can't imagine we'll have a very different starting lineup than last game. Pelkas for Konstantelias, Chatsidis for Zivkovic. A shame Despodov still isn't able to play. I would also not be shocked if we play three CMs instead of Pelkas, though. Santamaria/Zafeiris/Camara.

Seems he's coming as a free agent? Not bad, but if he's any good then I wonder why he'd come to us at all. Hopefully this turns out all right.

One gold and one silver for Greece. Gold for Tentoglou in long jump with 8.44 meters and silver for Karalis in pole vault with 6 meters.

Jeremejeff did not care. He already knew he was leaving the team.

At least we now have a new option on offense. The problem will be who will take Konstantelias's place. Pelkas comes to mind, but has been awful so far this season. Also Chatsidis will take Zivkovic's spot. Hopefully he can help. We will have a tough time against Brann in my opinion.

We are signing the 17-year old Kostoglou to a 3-year deal. He was suppesed to be part of t Konstantelias deal, but in the end it was a separate transfer. He is headed to the 'B' team.

Just noticed that Taha Ali is listed as expected to return on the 24th per Transfermarkt. I did see a report a week or so ago that he had started training again (but mostly separately) so hopefully he will be ready soon.

Done deal: I should also note that there are additional rumors that we're trying to take a few players on loan from BVB. I don't know how realistic these rumors are. I will say that Inacio would make some sense in Lisci's preferred formation. Especially if we don't play an actual #10 in some games. Samuele Inacio: plays SS https://www.transfermarkt.com/samuele-inacio/profil/spieler/1058359 Christos Kostoglou: plays midfield https://www.transfermarkt.com/christos-kostoglou/profil/spieler/1392938

It has formally been announced by BVB: https://www.bvb.de/de/de/aktuelles/news/news.html/2026/8/17/BVB-verpflichtet-Giannis-Konstantelias.html So, it's confirmed. The PAOK midfielder has been signed and is headed to Borussia Dortmund, joining fellow Greek international new signing Kostas Karetsas.

Is now a good time to add that I'm a CR7 fan? 😉

NAME: Pape Cherif NDIAYE POSITION: Forward JERSEY NUMBER: 27 BIRTHDAY: 23.01.1996 BIRTH PLACE: Dakar, Senegal HEIGHT 1.90 m PAOK DEBUT: NT DEBUT: 06.06.2024 (Senegal - DR Congo 1:1) PREVIOUS TEAMS: Samsunspor, Red Star Beograd, Adana Demirspor, Shanghai Port, Goztepe, Gorica, Waasland Beveren CONTRACT ENDS: 30-June-2027 SALARY: € per season (on loan from Samsunspor)

On Jeremejeff, as the saying goes "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" Whether he was morally right or not makes no difference, don't give the ref the chance to make that kind of decision.

Den xero, file. I want to delete these two games more and more. Cheers.

Ndiaye confirmed, loan with a 3 million buy-out option. At least we'll have a 2nd striking option against Brann.

Last question. If Anderlecht scored would the VAR pushed to cancel the goal? I think not.

Shoretire will be our savior

The money for Konstantelias is decent but again it is the plan B we lack. He was destined to leave. 2 years ago to Red Bull Salzburg, last year to VfB Stuttgart. The third year the same could not have taken us as a surprise. But guess what: we had no plan B in case he would be sold. It is not that difficult. Look at AZ (Alkmaar). They are a club like ours. They need to sell players but always have the replacement if or before the player is sold. Even gelling in 6 months before where the new player can learn the tricks and get used to his new club. It is no rocket science. Check a replacement. Or more targets. Spend 5-10 mil (from the transfers before) and cash that 30 mil. In other it was rumoured that Leo Matos resigned. But this is denied. We'll see.

I wear PAOK-glasses too but maybe it's my age and that's why we might not agree on everything, @PAOKSYD. Growing older probably makes me softer in some things. And I happen to referee from time to time. You learn to see both sides. Though I have no VAR. I would have counted Camara's goal. Only after 7 minutes of VARring it was clear that it was offside by almost nothing. I would be happy to see this kind of VAR-moments to be abolished. VAR was introduced for dirty and clear fouls not noticed by the ref who has to observe 22 "scumbags" with just 2 eyes. For instance Thierry Henry keeping the ball in with his hand vs Ireland. I don't think the goal would have changed much. Another situation and probably not resulting in the same position for the penalty, but who knows?! Jeremejeff. He was probably kicked in front of the assistant ref. Maybe multiple times. But he is too old and experienced to know that a ref or assistant will not change his decision if you yell at him. And there is the way you yell. Anyway we were stupid. Missing a penalty, sleeping while the game started after the whistle, to slow reactions. And they were indeed getting under our skin. But from our starting team 6 were 30 or older. Anderlecht only their keeper. And PAOK is a mediterranian side who are famous for this behavior but a guy as Zivkovic never ever learns. We have to pick up the peaces and win against Brann. But I am not that confident anymore. No Delias, No Andrija, No Jeremejeff (23 matches (most as a sub, mind you) and 10 goals), No Meite. Pfffff. No one to control the game and no one to make the difference let alone a goal.......

So many good Greek players all over Europe, bring em back like a fish trawler

He was never going to stay with us forever. This has been inevitable for a long time. the problem is, after this move goes through, we would have made over 60+ million in transfer revenue in the past 2 years, but can’t shake our “smartest in the room” mentality, thinking we can just look in the bargain bins to find quality players. We never have a plan, nothing is ever calculated. On a side note, I will be in Germany in a couple of days, and will be attending Dortmund vs Bayern Munich. I will definitely be picking up a Konstantelias Dortmund jersey as a souvenir.

We clearly fundamentally disagree on this issue at almost every turn and that's okay, we have a strong enough relationship where I think we'll be able to push passed it and be stronger than ever! Let me just say though, I really do think you are underrating Konstantelias' ability and talent. As of right now yes Tzolis has had a better career. But Konstantelias is a more naturally talented footballer. It's almost a mini Ronaldo vs Messi debate in terms of style. Tzolis is quick, direct and has a great goal sense. Konstantelias is magic, he can beat 4 players and score or create a goal for a teammate. The speed at which he can flick a ball past an opponent and then drag it back to completely wrong foot a defender is world class. He epitomises what so many people love about football. The only thing that will stop Konstantelias having a better career in Europe than Tzolis' is Ntelias himself. As I've said, my doubt is around his drive to push himself and succeed. Otherwise talent wise he has Tzolis and probably every other Greek footballer beat (Karetsas may be the exception.) I hope I'm wrong and he has a long and illustrious career in Germany and in any of the other top leagues around Europe. Fans are emotional, they don't always see the big picture when it comes to their team. I do believe the ongoing protests outside of Toumba say a lot though. It didn't happen with Tzolis and it didn't happen with Koulierakis. Why? Because in my opinion, he is a once in a generation player.

Delias wasn't "made" by our academy. You can't make players like that. He's in the mould of Hatzipanayis, Karapialis, those style of players. The things he's done, we may not see again for a long time, if ever. If the kid left of his own accord I'm ok with it, but still sad. If he was pushed out, I don't know what to say. As for our academy, it has only really produced 2 top class players that actually made a difference in the first team, Delias and Koulierakis. All the rest left early and didn't have time to make an impact. If we're happy to be an Ajax (020?) and produce players and then sell them off, so be it, but I'd have liked a few more seasons with them all in the first team. And as for the timing, it's terrible. The club should have a policy of no sales before the qualifying matches of Europe are completed. If we lose to Brann, we're done probably 13-15 million in revenue. That won't make the sale look too good. Why take the risk? Interesting times ahead.

@paokarag4 @Bananas I agree with a lot of what you're saying, particularly that the timing is terrible and that losing Konstantelias creates a massive hole in the team. Where I disagree is the idea that he is “not replaceable” or that his value to PAOK is somehow €50m. Every player is replaceable. The question is how difficult and expensive it is to replace them. Konstantelias is obviously very difficult to replace because he's a top-level Greek attacking player, young, homegrown and already proven at PAOK. But that doesn't mean you can put an arbitrary €50m value on him. Ultimately, the market determines his transfer value. If €30m was genuinely well below his market value, why wasn't there a bigger club willing to pay substantially more? Dortmund obviously see enormous potential in him, but they were the club willing to actually put the money on the table. We can't simultaneously say the market undervalued him and ignore the fact that nobody else offered PAOK €40m, €50m etc. And I don't really buy the “Koudas and Konstantelias, once in 100 years” argument either. That's impossible to know. Koudas is a PAOK legend and his longevity and importance to the club are inomparable at this point - he played ~600 games for PAOK. Whether Konstantelias was to reach Koudas level is impossible to know given he was always going to leave at some point as a youngster in today's football world. He's an exceptionally talented player, but we're projecting what he might become. Where I completely agree is that the timing is awful. If you're going to sell your best player, you need to have a plan for replacing his production before you let him go. Selling him this late, when the squad already has obvious weaknesses and European qualification is hanging in the balance, is the part I have the biggest problem with. That's my issue with the transfer — not that PAOK accepted €30m instead of €50m. My concern is now what PAOK does with the €30m. If we spend properly and strengthen 2-3 positions, then the sale can make sense. If we sell Konstantelias and then replace him with cheaper/lesser players, that's when I'd have a serious problem with the management. And honestly, I'd much rather have PAOK develop another Konstantelias than spend €30-40m trying to find another one.