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PAOK in Europe 2017-2018

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italosPAOK4    162

Έτσι πάει στους ισχυρούς ο ΠΑΟΚ

Ο ΠΑΟΚ είναι η μόνη ομάδα των playoffs, η οποία μπορεί να βρεθεί στους ισχυρούς του 3ου προκριματικού γύρου του Champions League, αν πάρει την 1η θέση στο μίνι πρωτάθλημα. Διαβάστε πώς θα συμβεί αυτό.

Ο "Δικέφαλος" είναι η μόνη ελληνική ομάδα (πέραν του Ολυμπιακού που λογικά θα κατακτήσει το πρωτάθλημα και θα εκκινήσει από το μονοπάτι των πρωταθλητών), η οποία έχει τόσο υψηλή βαθμολογία (35.080 βαθμοί) στην κατάταξη της UEFA, κάτι που ενδεχομένως να του δώσει τη δυνατότητα να μπει στα προκριματικά ως ισχυρός. Το οποίο σημαίνει (θεωρητικά) πιο εύκολη κλήρωση, ενώ μία ενδεχόμενη πρόκριση, θα του εξασφαλίσει -στη χειρότερη- την παρουσία στους ομίλους του Europa League!

Αν ολοκληρώνονταν αυτή τη στιγμή όλα τα ευρωπαϊκά πρωταθλήματα, ο ΠΑΟΚ θα είχε μία θέση στους ισχυρούς, έστω και ως τελευταίος. Ουσιαστικά, σε αυτό συνετέλεσε το γεγονός πως η Στεάουα, που έχει καλύτερη βαθμολογία από την ελληνική ομάδα, ανέβηκε το βράδυ της Κυριακής στην πρώτη θέση του ρουμανικού πρωταθλήματος, με αποτέλεσμα να μεταπηδήσει στο μονοπάτι των πρωταθλητών και να στείλει στους μη πρωταθλητές τη δεύτερη Βιτορούλ, η οποία έχει σαφώς χαμηλότερη βαθμολογία από τον ΠΑΟΚ.  

Για την ακρίβεια, η τύχη του "Δικεφάλου" εξαρτάται από την εξέλιξη έξι ευρωπαϊκών πρωταθλημάτων, του ολλανδικού, του βελγικού, του γαλλικού, του τουρκικού, του τσεχικού και του ρουμανικού. Σε κάθε ένα από αυτά, ο ΠΑΟΚ "υποστηρίζει" συγκεκριμένες ομάδες, που θα σταθεροποιήσουν τη θέση του στους ισχυρούς.  

Από κάθε ένα από τα προαναφερθέντα πρωταθλήματα, ο δεύτερος είναι αυτός που παίρνει το εισιτήριο για το μονοπάτι των μη πρωταθλητών του 3ου προκριματικού γύρου. Μόνη εξαίρεση το γαλλικό, όπου προκρίνεται ο τρίτος.

Ας τα δούμε όμως πιο αναλυτικά: http://www.sport24.gr/football/ChampionsLeague/etsi-paei-stoys-isxyrous-o-paok.4618339.html

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Dutch Eagle    615

With our the Cupfinal yesterday we will play for sure in Q3. Either in CL or EL.

Draw will be on July 14th.

First leg July 25/26 (CL) or 27 (EL) 

Second leg August 1/2 (CL) or 3 (EL) 

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Blackhawk    798

If we make CL qualifying rounds we will not be seeded in either round following various league results from past weekend.

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Blackhawk    798

We end up playing in the 3rd round of Europa League. Most like would have ended up in EL even if we made Cl qualifying. 

We will be among the seeded teams. Fist leg July 27, second leg August 3rd.

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Blackhawk    798

The goal for next season in EL should be the Round of 16.

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paoknola    1

I am sorry but I feel as if for right now ,with the ambitions the club has and CL not being possible .....Us screwing around in EL for half a season will do nothing but cause this team to drop vital points in the league.Hold the spine of the squad together ,bring in a little more depth and focus on winning the league finally

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pash    1,245

I can't agree with that, the EL is the most exciting part of our season. I want them to try to absolutely crush it there.

We lost the race for the league in October, and it wasn't due to the club being distracted by the European matches. Hopefully Ivic takes some lessons to heart and we are more consistent through next season.

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Blackhawk    798

If you want to be called a big team, you must try and do your best in every competition and that includes Europe.

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Athens4    34

I will be in Skiathos at that time. Honestly I'll take a nice Swedish girl over a win any day.

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Bananas    976
5 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

The goal for next season in EL should be the Round of 16.

I don't think we've ever gotten past the round of 32.  When you get that point, every team is good.

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Athens4    34

Not in Europa League. In EL it starts to get interesting around the semi finals. There is a huge gap between EL and CL.

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Yiankos    79

It depends on what is interesting for you. In the round of 16 in EL this year were teams like Lyon, Roma, Ajax, Schalke, Anderlecht, Besiktas, and Man Utd. I think for the Greek standards it is more interesting than we can handle.

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Bananas    976
8 hours ago, Yiankos said:

It depends on what is interesting for you. In the round of 16 in EL this year were teams like Lyon, Roma, Ajax, Schalke, Anderlecht, Besiktas, and Man Utd. I think for the Greek standards it is more interesting than we can handle.

That's right.  The standard is very good at the round of 32.  Olympiakos has been eliminated at that stage the last two seasons.  It's not a walkover and if we are being real, we are little fish at that stage.  It would be a good achievement to get past that point.

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Yiankos    79

And not to forget that Europe and even Europe League is the reason that many of our top players came to PAOK. We succeed on getting PAOK's name out there in the world. Players as Noboa and Natcho played against us with Rubin Kazan when we left out Tottenham. Miroslav Stoch was playing for Fenerbahce when we eliminated them, too. No matter they didn't offer a lot to the club, they are quality players who might need an extra motive besides money. And good European runs, with full and noisy stadium are the best advocate for us after the money that Savvidis has to give to persuade them to come to play for us.

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Blackhawk    798

With 35.080 points, PAOK is seeded in 10th (out of 58) place in the 3rd Qualifying Round of the Europa League. 

As for possible opponents only six of them are certain. The remaining 23 teams will need to qualify from early rounds of Europa League.

The six certain team that we could face are:

FC Oleksandriya  (UKR) - 9.526
Olimpik Donetsk  (UKR) - 8.526
KV Oostende  (BEL) - 8.480
Dinamo Bucuresti  (ROM) - 6.370
Universitatea Craiova  (ROM) - 4.870
Arka Gdynia  (POL) - 3.950

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pash    1,245

We shouldn't have any trouble with any of these guys (obviously), but let's hope we get someone from a country whose coefficient threatens Greece's. Every little bit helps.

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Blackhawk    798

Draw for the 3rd qualifying round of Europa League will be held tomorrow.

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Dutch Eagle    615

One of these teams (with their coefficient) will come out as our opponent in today's draw:

Olimpik Donetsk (UKR) 8.526
Progrès Niederkorn (LUX) or AEL Limassol (CYP) 8.210
Kairat Almaty (KAZ) or Skënderbeu (ALB) 6.825
Dinamo București (ROU) 6.370
Vaduz (LIE) or Odd (NOR) 5.665
Arka Gdynia (POL) 3.950

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Dutch Eagle    615

I will watch on August 3rd an uninspiring and unknown opponent in Toumba. They will probably have some fast Brazilian forwards to counter. Ftou.

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pash    1,245

Not an exciting match-up, but probably the hardest team of that list we could have drawn. Here's their transfermarkt profile: https://www.transfermarkt.com/olimpik-donetsk/startseite/verein/23611

On the plus side, Ukraine is ranked higher than Greece - beating them will only help our country coefficient in the long run.

Dutch Eagle, looks like you're right about where they put their cash (though a little off on the country of origin ;) ): https://www.transfermarkt.com/moha/profil/spieler/316280

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Bananas    976

The way we are playing, we better be careful we don't qualify for the group stage of the EL.  If we fail to qualify, Stajonevic will be gone and the manager band wagon will begin yet again.

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