thrylos Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Anastasiou is playing very well and scoring a lot of goals. Yet he gets no call up. Who in your mind is "forgotten" by the Ethniki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFI-mtl Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 In the November Frienndlies the lineup I would like to see Keeper: Nikopolidis/ Sifakis ( we need a KEEPER to snatch the job from Nikopolidis) LeftBack: Darlas Grammozis Venetidis Vyntra (open audition, DARLAS must take this spot) Centerbacks: Dellas Kyriakos/ Tavlaridis, Goumas, Alexopoulos, Kapsis Right Back: Giourkas/ would love to see Patsatsoglou make a healthy return, Vyntra Left Mid: Lagos or anyone else left footed MIDS: Katsouranis(must raise his level), Basinas (must find team or see you!), Stoltidis,Kafes (playing well), Tziolis,Fotakis, PAO player splchk leontiou RightMids:Karagounis, Stelios Strikers: OPEN AUDITION! Charisteas,Mantzios,Salpigidis, Houtos,Amanatidis,Machlas(OFI ; ),Samaras, My son Michael scored 3 in his U-5 final game!!! Lineup for 1st firendly. Keeper: Nikopolidis/Sifakis LeftBack: Darlas/Grammozis CenterBacks: Dellas Kyriakos?/ Tavlaridis,Alexopoulos RightBack:Giourkas/Vyntra/Patsa if healthy Leftmid: Lagos the whole 90 min! CenterMid: Katsouranis,Tziolis/ Stotidis Fotakis Right Mid: Karagounis/Kafes Mid behind Striker : Stelios is a poacher the ball finds him ,he scores for Bolton,why not US? Striker: Charisteas(30)/Mantzios (30)/ Salpigidis(30) I believe Stelios and Karagounis still merit the playing time, thats why I pushed Stelios up behind the Striker. The new coach cannot KISS veteran A$$, you must earn your spot! EAGER TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 who we playing in these november friendlies? the lineup i would like to see is something like this: nikopolidis/kotsolis(from the up and coming larisa) fyssas/darlas(needs to get time right now) dellas /soto/tav kapsis/alexopoulos/goumas giourkas/vyntra(although sometimes makes horrible giveaways) kara/lagos/zikos, if otto leaves, and deschapms comes he'll bring zikos cos he loves him katsou/basinas/zago/tziolos stelios/kafes mantzios/papadopoulos amanatidis/salp vryzas and zago need to contemplate retiring from the national team imeadeately mr. charisteas.............TAKE A HIKE BRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydagreek Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I think we need to see some new faces now , but charistea shouldn't be left out....he is still young and had a few bad games recently which were not all his fault........he played hard , missed some nice chances, but would have been better with some better crosses and some more help............charistea should be on the team.................vryza and zagoraki have been great for the nt over the years but it is time to call it quits ,especially vryzas.................basinas gots to go..............i cant wait to see samara play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Bring back Machlas, he's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aek21 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 :LOL: machlas is out, not the kind of plyer the team needs and hasn't done anything but score a bad goal against Olympaicos (garbage goal). I think the team we have now is good enough, I stand by it. The olny problem i see is injury/fatigue something that has caused us problems during qualification since we have no depth. Zagorakis must stay with the team, he's like that guy from cameroon Roger Mila(sp?), no matter how old he gets he still plays great. I honestly can't see anyone replacing zagorakis. Kafes has been impressive lately. I agree on sifakis, but kotsolis too has been doing well with larissa. amanatidis and houtos are worthless, they aren't that good. The forwards we have now are the best in Greece, Lybe, Charisteas, Vryzas, Gekas, Papadopoulos all good players. Mantzios still needs to prove hinmself like Gekas last season. I think we were just unlucky this qualifying campaign. Greece, Denmark, Turkey and Ukraine all deserved qualification to the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFI-mtl Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Easy re AEKtzi Lybe is a statue out there he could not shine Machlas boots!!!!!!! If not for that knee injury he would still be filling up the nets in the Dutch League. I know he does not merit a spot, but I would take him over Vryzas. Strikers in order: Papadopoulos(left foot a plus), Salpigidis,Mantzios,Charisteas (if healthy)Samaras,Amanatidis,Gekkas, Houtos(if healthy and Playing with Maillorca) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Zagorakis must stay with the team, he's like that guy from cameroon Roger Mila(sp?), no matter how old he gets he still plays great. not vs. denmark and georgia, he wasn't the same player, both disapointing performances from the captain I honestly can't see anyone replacing zagorakis.i see katsouranis, now dellas return will allow him to move upfieldthe strikers that should be competing for starting places are papa/mantzios/samaras/amanatidis/salp vryzas should retire from the national team, he's barely playing for his club and oh yes charisteas should have a place..........................ON THE BENCH :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Darlas looks ready - I think Nikopolidis Basinas Fyssas and Charisteas should not be buried too fast - Zagorakis may still have something in the tank - and I'd like to see Katsouranis claim his job not be anointed - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 who we playing in these november friendlies? On 16th of November we play against Hungary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick13 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Anastasiou is playing very well and scoring a lot of goals. Yet he gets no call up. Who in your mind is "forgotten" by the Ethniki? anastasiou is 34 years old!we need young blood not old blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 anastasiou is 34 years old! we need young blood not old blood! Would you rather have an old guy that can score or a young guy that cannot? Age is just a number. Then again so are goals. I don't care how old Anastasiou is. I don't even like him. BUT, and that is a big BUT, he is in top form and very productive for his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Lineup for 1st firendly. Keeper: Nikopolidis/Sifakis LeftBack: Darlas/Grammozis CenterBacks: Dellas Kyriakos?/ Tavlaridis,Alexopoulos RightBack:Giourkas/Vyntra/Patsa if healthy Leftmid: Lagos the whole 90 min! CenterMid: Katsouranis,Tziolis/ Stotidis Fotakis Right Mid: Karagounis/Kafes Mid behind Striker : Stelios is a poacher the ball finds him ,he scores for Bolton,why not US? Striker: Charisteas(30)/Mantzios (30)/ Salpigidis(30) I believe Stelios and Karagounis still merit the playing time, thats why I pushed Stelios up behind the Striker. The new coach cannot KISS veteran A$$, you must earn your spot! EAGER TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS I agree - re Stelios - and I would even say that he and we may be better off with him coming off the bench if they want 2 traditional strikes - remeber what he did vs Czech in EuroOverall I like what you recomend - I still like what Fyssas adds - but Darlas should be phased in for sure The center mid you have here is not too strong - I hope to hell that Basinas signs somewhere - otherwise no way should he play on the Ethniki - Zikos??? I also like Kapsis as the 4th center back and leonitou and lagos should batttle over the left side spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 anastasiou is 34 years old! we need young blood not old blood! Would you rather have an old guy that can score or a young guy that cannot? Age is just a number. Then again so are goals. I don't care how old Anastasiou is. I don't even like him. BUT, and that is a big BUT, he is in top form and very productive for his team. anastasiou is far from a prolific goalscorer. he gets some goals with Ajax lately. But 34 is too old. We have no competitive matches coming up, only friendlies. We dont give a ###### about winning friendlies its about playing well and showing potential for the FUTRURE. Anastasiou isnt gonna be in the future picture. Nor will Nikopolidis, Zagorakis (likely), Tsiartas, and in a year or so Giannakopoulos......this generation has to make way for a new one- thats how it is and the sooner we change the quicker well get better and the better we will be when the generation is at its peak-- it has to change in all areas or Ellas will never win again. Machlas- hitting form again had another today, has intl experience, but hes a bit old...We should have tried him out instead of Salpiggidis for the Denmark game i think. Machlas was our ethniki's superstar....im sure if he got his chance again hed seize it. Tsiartas--- out! Charisteas----relatively young but is losing it.....like Machlas i think he will prematurely lose his spot... he needs to go back to Greece i think and get his form and confidence back. Basinas- eksw! Nikopolidis- paei kai autos Zagorakis--- great player but he has to make room for the new generation. Giannakopoulos has another year but we have to think long term not short term...at the moment there is no short term anyways. Anastasiou- too bad for him kids we will most likely start seeing- Lagos- really young and a great defensive winger......and scores a lot for Ira...had another one today Darlas--good left back......with him and Lagos on the left we are gonna do great Leontiou & Iliadis- in a few years will be a good midfielder Tziolis- in a year or so will be ready Pappas- will be a great poacher.... Gkoundoulakis- an attacking option in midfield coming up Sifakis, Kotsolis------sifakis has looked shitty this season of what ive seen......prefer Kotsolis because he was a good backup at PAO and with 1st team only better the league is filled with young talents.....Otto may have brought us to heaven but was too stubborn and set us back a year by not giving these kids a chance (any kids not just the above) now we have to see changes early to get the kids experience because this upcoming generation has some great potential.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Charisteas----relatively young but is losing it.....like Machlas i think he will prematurely lose his spot... he needs to go back to Greece i think and get his form and confidence back. how true. when he first joined verder bremen he had a really fierce shot w/ both feet and now he can't even hit a beach ball. klasnic and klose came along and he saw more bench time and after that it was all downhill from there. one thing in his favour though is his age, he' still young enough to turn it around. we got a talented youngster to fill every starting place just the question is for the caoch to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTheGreek Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 The problem with Charisteas will be in finding a club interested in taking him on, after seeing him flounder with the NT. 24/25 isn't that young when it's your major earning years. Pity about his head injury, as he was putting a few in the net those last few games. Anastasiou has got one foot in the grave; you shouldn't discount veterans, but like Tsartas, or anybody in their early thirties, sub them on in the last 15 minutes if you absolutely have to. Besides which, two goals is not A LOT. Call them flukes if anything. Lyberopoulos is playing full games however, and he's pushing 31--while scoring almost every single game. Let's hope Otto keeps him on and gets rid of the dead wood. Nikopolidis, I would keep on for the simple fact that we've got no goaltenders capable of replacing him just yet. GKs can last until they're in their late 30s. But they would be smart to look for a youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrylos Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 The problem with Charisteas will be in finding a club interested in taking him on, after seeing him flounder with the NT. 24/25 isn't that young when it's your major earning years. Pity about his head injury, as he was putting a few in the net those last few games. Anastasiou has got one foot in the grave; you shouldn't discount veterans, but like Tsartas, or anybody in their early thirties, sub them on in the last 15 minutes if you absolutely have to. Besides which, two goals is not A LOT. Call them flukes if anything. Lyberopoulos is playing full games however, and he's pushing 31--while scoring almost every single game. Let's hope Otto keeps him on and gets rid of the dead wood. Nikopolidis, I would keep on for the simple fact that we've got no goaltenders capable of replacing him just yet. GKs can last until they're in their late 30s. But they would be smart to look for a youngster. I agree with your comment about Keeping veterans that can score around, because you never know....... Lyberopoulos has been scoring which is great, but is it more difficult to score in the Italian league or in the Greek league? That is the reason that Otto calls all the foreign based players. Until Ellas has a true protathlema, where there are a legit 8 teams fighting for the championship, the level of play will not increase. Look at Panathinaikos. They got a few young Greek players on the team, but in their starting 11, how many of them are Greek? Olympiakos is the same thing. As far as Nikopolidis goes, I agree that he can play another 6 years if his head is in it. But, I would also like to see Eleftheropoulos given another crack and Sifakis and Gianou and the young goalis who played for Panthinaikos last year (he was impressive I thought) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvis1981 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 anastasiou is 34 years old! we need young blood not old blood! Would you rather have an old guy that can score or a young guy that cannot? Age is just a number. Then again so are goals. I don't care how old Anastasiou is. I don't even like him. BUT, and that is a big BUT, he is in top form and very productive for his team. anastasiou is far from a prolific goalscorer. he gets some goals with Ajax lately. But 34 is too old. We have no competitive matches coming up, only friendlies. We dont give a ###### about winning friendlies its about playing well and showing potential for the FUTRURE. Anastasiou isnt gonna be in the future picture. Nor will Nikopolidis, Zagorakis (likely), Tsiartas, and in a year or so Giannakopoulos......this generation has to make way for a new one- thats how it is and the sooner we change the quicker well get better and the better we will be when the generation is at its peak-- it has to change in all areas or Ellas will never win again. Machlas- hitting form again had another today, has intl experience, but hes a bit old...We should have tried him out instead of Salpiggidis for the Denmark game i think. Machlas was our ethniki's superstar....im sure if he got his chance again hed seize it. Tsiartas--- out! Charisteas----relatively young but is losing it.....like Machlas i think he will prematurely lose his spot... he needs to go back to Greece i think and get his form and confidence back. Basinas- eksw! Nikopolidis- paei kai autos Zagorakis--- great player but he has to make room for the new generation. Giannakopoulos has another year but we have to think long term not short term...at the moment there is no short term anyways. Anastasiou- too bad for him kids we will most likely start seeing- Lagos- really young and a great defensive winger......and scores a lot for Ira...had another one today Darlas--good left back......with him and Lagos on the left we are gonna do great Leontiou & Iliadis- in a few years will be a good midfielder Tziolis- in a year or so will be ready Pappas- will be a great poacher.... Gkoundoulakis- an attacking option in midfield coming up Sifakis, Kotsolis------sifakis has looked shitty this season of what ive seen......prefer Kotsolis because he was a good backup at PAO and with 1st team only better the league is filled with young talents.....Otto may have brought us to heaven but was too stubborn and set us back a year by not giving these kids a chance (any kids not just the above) now we have to see changes early to get the kids experience because this upcoming generation has some great potential.... I would like to see Zagorakis stay on the team but not as a starter. ...If he's 32 he could still play some minutes , if required, up to age 37 and he's a great team player. He would also be a coach on the bench due to his experience and his accomplishments. The younger players on the bench will listen to him and this can mean the difference in games. Zagorakis stays if he wants.......but he won't be a starter. Just my opinion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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